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New military rifle lighter, more powerful
NBC13 ^
| 09-29-2010
| Staff
Posted on 09/04/2010 8:10:09 AM PDT by em2vn
It was designed with input by U.S. Special Operations Command warriors for special ops missions to be lighter, more maneuverable and longer lasting.
Earlier this month, the MK-17 dubbed the SCAR by its Belgian manufacturer FNH went into "full rate production" making it the first new assault carbine to be purchased by the U.S. military since the M-16 and M-4 rifles went online four decades ago. The rifle is expected to be particularly valuable in situations like those faced by soldiers fighting in Afghanistan, where the weapon's additional range will provide a significant upgrade.
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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 556762mk17; assaultrifle; banglist; kalashnikov; sturmgewehr
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To: Sudetenland
Answer my own question:
Civilian SCARFirm list price of $2700. Wish I had the money.
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posted on
09/04/2010 9:13:11 AM PDT
by
Sudetenland
(Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
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posted on
09/04/2010 9:17:16 AM PDT
by
Joe Brower
(Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
yup....I know those clips....stripper clips...they go back to the original mausers.
IMHO, the M-14 and guns like AR-10s and FN FAL are what are needed in the sandbox....
not the 5.56 varmint gun...
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posted on
09/04/2010 9:23:51 AM PDT
by
Vaquero
(Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
To: em2vn
Initially, the rifles will be made in Belgium, says Bailey, until a domestic manufacturing plant can be brought on line to produce them. Components will be made at FNH's plant in Columbia, S.C., he says.Well that's a relief!
I would hate to see us without such a plant if, like in WWII, Belgium was over run by a foreign nation.
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posted on
09/04/2010 9:29:13 AM PDT
by
philman_36
(Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
To: Joe Boucher
for long range sure... i like this for up close and personal
45
posted on
09/04/2010 9:31:00 AM PDT
by
Chode
(American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
To: SampleMan
Unfortunately, that short barrel is going to seriously rob the cartridge of its power. You can only burn powder so fast, alot of the burn is going to happen as flash beyond the muzzle. You can make ammo with faster-burning powder, intermediate between rifle and pistol powder.
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posted on
09/04/2010 9:35:41 AM PDT
by
PapaBear3625
("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
To: BluH2o
I qualified with the M-14 in 1969. Great rifle!
Fired the M-16 a year later. Yuk!
Went to Vietnam the year after that and flew UH-1H’s. Carried my trusty S&W .38 Model 15.
Fast forward forty years... I still qualify with the M16A2 (not a bad rifle), later this year with the M4 (warrant officers have a very long shelf life).
Just bought my second M-14 lookalike. Looking forward to a secure retirement.
;^)
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posted on
09/04/2010 9:37:58 AM PDT
by
elcid1970
("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease!")
To: em2vn
A .308 by FNH - didn’t we turn one of those down last time? The rest of the free world certainly didn’t. :)
I’ve got an M1A, a PRT-91 (HK G3), and an FAL - I’ll take the Belgians any day! (and a .308 over the .223 any day as well).
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posted on
09/04/2010 9:41:07 AM PDT
by
dagogo redux
(A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
To: em2vn
I hope the weapons works out as planned If they don't work out South Korea has a big bunch of M-1's that are for sale.
There doesn't seem to be a civilian market for them in the US.(/s)
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posted on
09/04/2010 9:46:10 AM PDT
by
TYVets
To: stumpjumper
Do you know why the round is rated at 30.06? I know it is a 30 calibre round but what does the .06 mean?
Thanks.
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posted on
09/04/2010 9:47:28 AM PDT
by
ops33
(Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
To: Spok
The 5.56mm is proving less effective in the open country of Afghanistan than it did in the jungle in SE Asia...The difference between a 14.5 inch and a 20 inch barrel.
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posted on
09/04/2010 9:48:54 AM PDT
by
gundog
(Why is it that useful idiots remain idiots long after they've exhausted their usefulness?)
To: ops33
The year 1906...last time it was modified. Round uf -03 was 220 grain RN, I believe.
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posted on
09/04/2010 9:52:31 AM PDT
by
gundog
(Why is it that useful idiots remain idiots long after they've exhausted their usefulness?)
To: em2vn
It has three interchangeable barrels. It will be able to fire two different caliber bullets. This is from the link above.
Three interchangeable barrels!?!
Oh yeah. I gotta get me one of these babies!!!
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posted on
09/04/2010 9:57:32 AM PDT
by
airborne
(Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
To: PapaBear3625
You can make ammo with faster-burning powder, intermediate between rifle and pistol powder. And why don't they always do that? Because burning all of the powder in a 7.62x51 cartridge in 14" would do two things:
1. Increase pressures to the point that you would need a 14 pound receiver to handle it.
2. Burn up the barrel in about 300 rounds.
That's why they don't pack cartridges full of C4.
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posted on
09/04/2010 10:00:08 AM PDT
by
SampleMan
(If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
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posted on
09/04/2010 10:01:07 AM PDT
by
airborne
(Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
To: ReeseBN38416
20” is already very short in my book. I very much doubt that any tactical advantage of losing 7” of barrel makes up for the expense and logistics tree of having that option. And with any gas operated gun, barrel length changes affect operation. Yes ports can be changed, but that is a compromise, not an optimization.
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posted on
09/04/2010 10:03:13 AM PDT
by
SampleMan
(If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
To: SampleMan
May be a dumb question, why not make our own version of an ak-47? It’s obviously been proven to be good under adverse conditions and stuff...just asking.
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posted on
09/04/2010 10:08:13 AM PDT
by
Mmogamer
(I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
To: Mmogamer
The Kalashnikov action could be used to produce a really space-age carbine, even with a plastic or aluminum receiver. They aren’t as accurate because of the loose tolerances and simple, massive parts (which is what makes them so reliable in the sand). I doubt if we will ever see the US adopt a Soviet weapon design just because it would be politically unthinkable. If you look at recent pics and vids from Iraq, you can see several of our soldiers are carrying AKs over there, so they must like them.
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posted on
09/04/2010 10:14:34 AM PDT
by
Sender
(It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
To: Chode
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posted on
09/04/2010 10:29:02 AM PDT
by
proudofthesouth
(It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible - President George Washington)
To: proudofthesouth
absolutely... 8^)
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posted on
09/04/2010 10:38:54 AM PDT
by
Chode
(American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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