Posted on 09/02/2010 7:55:00 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama
VIDEO at link is "LaRouche supporter assaulted by Alaska State Fair Security"
This first day of the 2010 Alaska State Fair starts with sunny skies and a brutal assault by security personnel on a LaRouche supporter.
At about 5pm Alaska Time, Thursday, August 26, 2010, security personnel approach Sidney Hill, a lone man peacefully displaying an impeach Obama sign near Pioneer Plaza on the Alaska State Fairgrounds in Palmer. Minutes later, a crowd assembles, additional security forces arrive, and they physically assault the man holding the sign. He’s taken to the ground with force and detained.
An unidentified Alaska State Trooper arrives to physically disperse the crowd, and at several points during the conflict, crowd members yell in support of the demonstrator’s right to speak his message. The demonstrator’s personal firearm is confiscated by fair security, and he is held captive until Palmer police arrive to escort the man away in cuffs.
Sidney Hill was in jail awaiting a pre-trial at 1:00 pm on August 27, 2010 at the Palmer Courthouse. He has been charged with Assault 4-Cause Fear Of Injury, Disorderly Conduct-Challenge To Fight, and Criminal Trespass 2- Upon Premises. However, according to the Valley Frontiersman newspaper, “Assistant District Attorney Trina Sears said her office decided not to prosecute Hill on the assault charge.”
Did you notice how one instant, the security guard was quitely talking to a screaming, raving, insulting lunatic, and the next minute, the lunatic was belly to belly with a police officer?Well then, why didn't they arrest this raving woman?
Did you know that screaming insults at someone in close proximity can constitute assault?
Did you know that “state fairs” typically are not state funded (not sure about Alaska), but rather “state” refers to being for the whole state, not being run by the state?
Did you know that a 12-foot-wide sign, unlike a T-shirt, can pose an obstruction? (Sure, one guys’ not likely to cause a problem, but what if large numbers of people decide to?) And that therefore, even if it were a public space, he would not be permitted to carry it without a permit?
I’m deeply troubled by cops who act as if they are the law (rather than representing the law), and who use unnecessary force, but this guy was begging to be physically removed from the premise, and then fought cops like a rabid ferret.
Not on private property, it isn't. Get on my porch with a larouche-sign, and you'll earn a lesson in rock-salt ;).
So I can walk onto your private property, ignore rules you have set, refuse to leave, and you would have no problem with it?
Yes, they are private property there.
And he had a cocked and loaded firearm on the property against the policies set by the owners.
But the firearm wasn’t discovered until after they tried to remove him from interrupting the show that was taking place.
Yeah...shouting and disrupting a show is not acting "peacefully," especially when you do it on someone else's property.
I agree with the sentiment of the sign and the RKBA, but I also believe in property rights.
The firearm issue was secondary.
The Alaska State Fair is on private property.
Spoken like a true, obedient subject of the bureaucratic ruling elite.
LE in this country, from which I am retired, has become nothing more than armed handmaidens doing the bidding of the ruling bureaucratic elite and armed revenue shakedown artists with their violation of private citizens’ rights and ticket-writing, fines, etc.. They do little real LE work, just push people around on behalf of their government masters.
If it was a legal carry and he wasn’t brandishing it, then the rent-a-cops were out of line on that score as well.
So what if he was screaming at the cop?
“Insane” is a legal term and no street cop is qualified to make the determination if someone is “insane” or not.
I take it you’ll ne cowering in the closet when the shit finally hits the fan in this country and real Americans take to the streets, armed with signs............and a lot more.
So what? He can rant all he wants. We don’t arrest people for having a good rant whether it’s voiced to the government’s thug enforcers or Little Bo Peep. The SCOTUS has already held that it’s a matter of free speech to cuss out or yell at a cop. If the cop didn’t like the rant, he could have de-escalated the entire episode just by walking away.
Oh, geez, your posts are making me sick. You sound like some candy-assed little drunk-with-power government functionary yourself.
Security had no business bugging him in the first place. They fired him up. Lotsa cops do it deliberately and security personnel aren’t trained to so much as a walk a dog let alone deal with people in tense situations which are usually of security’s own making in the first place.
And I wouldn’t presume the cop was in the right just because he’s a cop with a badge and a gun. Whoop-de-doo.
I don’t care what the guy said before the cop attacked him because he was provoked by them even getting in his face to begin with. The cop should have backed the security guard off of him, not jumped in and escalated the situation. We probably have a case of off-duty LE moonlighting as security and working with or knowing the trooper.
Some of the people on this forum are equally sickening. They think it’s fine to harass and fire this guy up over some petty little oridnance as though that’s more important and valuable than the guy’s First Amendment right.
If the security guy and the trooper weren’t so drunk with their authority, they’d realize this and have handled it properly instead of abusing this man like that. I hope he sues them all right down to their panties and shoelaces.
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