Posted on 08/28/2010 12:18:06 AM PDT by DesertRenegade
A growing number of Republicans are breaking with the party's traditional stance to publicly state their support for same-sex marriage, a shift strategists say stems as much from demographics as from the renewed focus on economics and the "tea party" movement.
A solid majority of adults younger than 30 - about six in 10 - support the right of gay and lesbian couples to legally wed, according to a Washington Post poll in February.
But even many older Americans and self-identified social conservatives have changed their view on an issue that just six years ago galvanized voters in support of President George W. Bush's reelection.
Gay Republican activists credit the shift to the heightened attention within the GOP base to jobs and the economy, and by a desire among strategists to expand the party's appeal.
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Count me out of the support.
Oh yeah. Freepmail.
All the more reason for the GOP to cease to exist.
Three parties doesn't work. Let the RINO's go to the RATS and let the rest of the GOP have a real conservative party with enough muscle to actually win.
Call it Tea Party or whatever you want, but we can't have RATS, GOP, and something else. It has to be two parties with a real difference.
The problem with that is an angry, awake and fired up electorate. The only way Dems will win is if people split the vote or by staying home. These articles are meant to accomplish exactly that.
As I said, “It has to be two parties with a real difference.”
I don’t see that these days. My point goes beyond this article and this issue.
I do realize there are real conservatives in the GOP, but there are a lot of limp wristed and wishy-washy Lindsay Grahams, Olympia Snowes and John McCains. They tend to be the GOP leaders these days. I’m absolutely sick of it.
First order of business is to get the conservatives that won primaries elected in to office. Then elect more. We need to take control. We CAN do that. We ARE doing it.
Exactly. Courage is needed! Read my tagline!
I realize that and am glad to be a part of it.
But the GOP must change or die. RINOs must leave for the party of their destiny, the RAT party.
If now awake voters stay engaged we can change the GOP. We need to fill power positions at local levels with conservatives and work through the ranks and up. And keep pushing conservative candidates. Donating only to candidates gives them the money they need and starves the beast.
Yup, that's where it's at right now. Starve the beast and the party will have to follow.
But right now it seems like the GOP thinks they can be MICE (little RATS).
Do they really think they will gain many liberal votes by pretending to be "kinder, gentler" conservatives? The left will take their cooperation when given and then still stab them in the back.
They had better wake up soon, 2010 is here with elections looming and 2012 is going to come fast. Hopefully the 2010 results will be transformative for the GOP and the RINOs will have to move out of the way.
Or, hopefully, be run over in the stampede. We won't get all the Rinos in Nov but I'm hoping enough of them get the boot. I'm also hoping that if that happens, people don't go back to sleep for 2012. The danger will not be over.
Well aren't they? Look who all has been open about it. Coulter, Cheneys, former Bush adviser and RNC Chairman, Bush himself slighted a former Reagan adviser who work in a gay healing ministry. No you have it wrong. There are Rockefeller Liberal Republicans who are trying to convince us Republicans are for perversion and the FUEL for the WP article.
It’s a tactic, a lie, and the only chance they have to not lose bigtime in Nov.
No actually it's not a lie. The controlling sect of the GOP has been trying to bring gays into the GOP Big Tent for several election cycles now. Remember the Bush Snub of James Dobson for Log Cabin Republicans in 2000? You know when Barney Frank got a significant number of GOP Congressman to go along with his votes on bailouts I wondered why he had so much power over them.
We need to kick Repub elitists to the curb. There are WAY more of us than them.
OK I'm game. Here's how it must be done though. Stop voting for Republicans only for party unity sake when Conservatives loose primaries and start voting for worthy Independent Conservatives instead. Look around on this board and see how many are willing to do this. Most won't do it and that's the problem. They are enablers to this agenda in every sense of the word. They value a political win at any cost over moral principles.
My last Republican Elitist's vote went to Bob Dole and no I did not vote for Junior Bush either time and the reasons stated above was at the top of the list as to why. Your religious and moral principles either stand for something or they are cheap and for sale for political gain and of little value in this world or the next. When people learn and understand you can not separate you political values from your moral ones and vote accordingly this nation might turn around again.
The last moral change or awakening as a nation back toward GOD as a nation came in 1980. Because of it were blessed with the best president since the Civil War as great prosperity before the world. Quickly as a nation we fell away from that because the same was abandoned for short term political gains. Since that time we have been cursed with some of the worst presidents in our nations history both Dem and GOP to ever sit in the office of President of the United States. IT'S THE NATIONAL MORALITY that's the problem. It's not a party problem because like it or not in deeds the two political parties in power today share most of the same political and moral values.
I’ll add this. I don’t like the Washington Post. But people need to stop blaming the WP for the ills of the GOP as if they don’t exist and clean house instead.
Some in the Repub part are as you say - social liberals. But IMO the grassroots Repubs are not, they are conservative. And if more conservatives run for office as “R’s”, this will bring more conservative voters still.
The RINOs need to be kicked to the curb.
At present, third party votes will ensure more of 0thugga’s helpers to win.
It's people like you that got us Obama. Thanks.
You're still not seeing the problem here. Too many on this site they will overlook these issues come general election. In 2000 a few of us on this board were warning GW Bush was no Conservative in any sense of the word. Many of them ended up booted off the forum for doing so. We were in fact right.
What can you say about a man when he tells you that he and Mr Gore are not far apart on most issues? George Walker Bush is the reason we have a Barrack Obama in office today. He lowered the standards as to what is considered to be a conservative by miles. Lowered so far the John McCain was considered a conservative?
Many in the party are in fact Social Liberals not just a few. They migrated here from the Democratic Party actually. They are not a majority but here is how they achieve majority control of the GOP. They do it through the GOP Straight Ticket {the Dems can't win at any cost including electing a RINO instead} voters who refuse to vote for a worthy Conservative Independent. They will vote for a Progressive Liberal for a party win. Until this is stopped the Liberals will control the GOP. Sad to say FR has many in here who do just this very thing. The Liberals have nothing to fear as long as they have their party loyal enablers.
At present, third party votes will ensure more of 0thugga’s helpers to win.
Thank you for proving my very point on this matter. Here is my answer to what you said and it's found in GOD's Word on this matter.
If…My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land.”
It's called changing ones ways. Change of heart and change of ones ways is required. We can't pray to GOD asking Him to save and restore our beloved nation and then turnaround and go vote for those who mock His Word. It will not work. Your moral and religious principles are who and what you are and stand for and should not be for sale for political gain niot now not ever. "ACT IN FAITH" by voting for your convictions and GOD will handle the rest. I believe GOD will heal our nation only when we as a nation do what is right {meaning standing on our beliefs at all cost} over what is short term expedient.
Post 77 is for you as well.
I read what you wrote, but here are a couple of thoughts.
Human agency can only do so much - especially one person, for instance, you or me - to change anything for the better. I agree that some of kind divine intervention is needed, or Natural Law kicking in, or whatever people want to call it. I also agree that the more individuals who adhere in person and in action and speech to religious moral principles, the sooner things will improve for the nation.
But even in wartime there are tactics used to win wars. And voting for a third party candidate (who also is not perfect, as very few are in this world) who is guaranteed to lose, and will also likely allow a Dem to win, is not a winning tactic.
Being moral and being practical do not have to cross each other out.
Pinging you to my post above, any thoughts welcome.
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