Onondagas say they will stop selling national-brand cigarettes

syracuse.com ^ | 8/27/01 | Glenn Coin

[Drango]

“Once they come off, or anyone else comes off, of their sacred land with cigarettes that are not being taxed by New York state, we are going to address that issue.”

Next Wednesday could be interesting.

[Mr. K]

Just how in the hell does the state plan on implementing a sales tax BEFORE an item is sold????

They are in effect forcing the tobacco companies to sell to Indians at a higher rate then they sell to anyone else.

Thats not legal

[OrioleFan]

Render unto Caesar ......... everything you have.

[Red Badger]

t about New Jersey or Canada? If I come into NY with stuff I bought in another state or country will I have to pay a sales tax on that?..............cars, groceries, clothing, appliances..............

[Red Badger]

Caesar should be rendered.............

[Claud]

Onontageronnon PING!!

[faucetman]

Good for them. sell their own cigarettes under their own names, such as : Marlbouro, Cool, Winstom, Kamel, Eave, Tonto, Chief, Buffalo Dung, Tee-Pee-Pee, Peace Pipe Tobacco, Zig Zog cigarette papers. The possibilities are endless.

[rickb308]

“Paterson said he has been warned there might be violence again, but vowed the state will proceed.

“There will be quite an uprising and protest to this, but I am going to maintain this policy,” Paterson said. “The state police tell us over and over again that there could be violence and death as a result of some of the measures we’re taking.”

Now, if they were muzzies, the state would fold.

[musicman]

...right next to the Rowex watches....

[Buckeye McFrog]

if John Wayne came back from the grave today I swear, he would switch sides

[rickb308]

Shouldn’t “Dutry Free” kick in? I mean, if they really ARE a sovereign nation, shouldn’t it be like shopping duty free?

[tacticalogic]

Render unto Caesar .........

Caesar is due an ass kicking.

[conservativeharleyguy]

"...“There will be quite an uprising and protest to this, but I am going to maintain this policy,” Paterson said. “The state police tell us over and over again that there could be violence and death as a result of some of the measures we’re taking..."

In other words: "I know we are going to have kill some of them to force the others to pay the tax, but I am perfectly willing to do so".

It's not about cigarettes, it's about self-determination. If it doesn't get your blood boiling, you are already a dead slave.

Sounds like the NYSP is just itchin' for the chance to shoot them some Injuns - teach 'em how to behave...

I suspect they'll find the Oneidas more than up to that challenge.

[Red Badger]

Since when did silly old “laws” and “rules” apply to Dems seeking tax revenue?...............

[rickb308]

“if John Wayne came back from the grave today I swear, he would switch sides”

I have to agree. And I’d be there with him.

[elcid1970]

“there could be violence and death as a result”

Did a sitting governor actually say this?

[BipolarBob]

I’m with the Indians on this one. Stick to the treaty. Gubmint speaks with forked tongue.

[BipolarBob]

Other states have signed what are called “tax parity” agreements with tribes, which require the tribe to charge its own tax comparable to the state tax. While the state gets none of that money, advocates say it levels the playing field for non-Indian merchants by taking away the price advantage tribes enjoy with untaxed cigarettes.,

And here I thought price fixing was against the law. Silly me.

[Repeal The 17th]

I heard a story one time about the Seminoles in South Florida
when they wanted to erect a bingo parlor and the State said “no”.
The tribe quickly erected wooden barricades across U.S. Hwy 441/State Road 7
(which ran through their reservation) and began to collect tolls from passing cars.
Approval of the bingo parlor came quickly.
I wish I know if that story was true.

[Drango]

The last time the state tried to collect the tax, in 1997, protests erupted and tires were burned on the Thruway, shutting down a 30-mile stretch.

Violence is likely this time too.