Don't look, birthers: Obama's passport

Politico ^ | August 17, 2010 | Josh Gerstein

[Natural Born 54]

Here's something new for the birthers to chew over: President Barack Obama's passport. Says he was born in Hawaii! But the White House has strategically fuzzed out certain data, so the mystery continues.

Now, it's his official passport, which means it's new, so the true believers will not be persuaded. Not that they ever would.

[RipSawyer]

This guy is my first choice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZY6qW2Aktk&feature=related

[SteamShovel]

President Barack Obama's passport. Says he was born in Hawaii!

Fake ID's say 17 year old kids are 21 too.

[Bellflower]

Does the man even have a driver license?

[jamese777]

Your capitalization in WKA says Citizen of the United States, not natural born citizen. If you know your constitution, which is doubtful since you don’t even know what a news release is, then you would understand that citizen of the United States only makes one eligible for Congress. Your citation of Ankeny is undermined by that court’s footnote in the decision where they undermine their own argument and acknowledge that, despite the claim of phantom guidance from WKA, no one in WKA is declared to be a natural born citizen and especially not by the parts they cited. Are you ready to go back and try to learn what a news release is, since you don’t understand the Supreme Court’s decision in WKA??

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No distinction in the law or via the Supreme Court has ever been made between a 14th Amendment “born citizen” and an Article 2, Section 1 “natural born citizen.” They are one in the same.
If there was such a distinction Barack Hussein Obama could not be President of the United States, and he is the president. The Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court is a constitutional scholar and an originalist/ strict constructionist. He would never have agreed to administer the Oath of Office to an ineligible person.

[danamco]

This was addressed to ArmyTeach with cc to you!!!

[danamco]

We have never removed a president from office yet and if the first one we remove happens to be black?

We never had a pResident who has skirted the Constitution either that seems to be a "paper" rolled up in your bathroom!!!

[Natural Born 54]

LOL I just saw this. Good one.

[danamco]

“Can you explain that in plain english. Please?”

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It all started on another thread at post 20 and went all the way through post 88. So if you have enough patient to go through them, I think you will understand, especially after post 24!??!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2568604/posts?page=20#20

[WOSG]

“Two fact for you: Obama is the worst President in our lifetimes.”

“FALSE!”

Stop defending Obama. He *IS* the worst President in our lifetimes.

[WOSG]

“People,like those on the American left, who use mockery against their opponenents do so because they have no substantive argument.”

True, but smart conservatives avoid mockable activities that aren’t advancing our agenda.

[Doe Eyes]

OK... then also just show his original birth certificate!

I don't have Obama's original birth certificate, and I don't have mine.

However, the DOD doesn't want that silly certificate with little footprints on it, but instead, that certification from the State.

That's the one the DOD wanted for my TS and TS SCI Clearances, not something with cute little footprints.

[WOSG]

“Thank you. I see a lot of efforts have been made recently to try to redefine what “natural born” citizenship means. When Vattel’s definition is brought up and quoted word for word, it’s dismissed as poorly translated or as irrelevant.”

It is irrelevent, he is a foreigner. We don’t like Ginsburg using foreign law to define US cases, why should we like that?

We don’t need a foreigner to tell us who an NBC is, we have the Constitution itself and the birthright citizenship clause.

“The 14th amendment concerns itself with Citizenship, particularily the citizenship of former slaves and their decendants, and not the Constitutional eligibility requirement of Natural Born Citizenship for a president.”

But the question is this: If you are the son of slaves in America and born in a US, are you eligible to be President?

“In effect the 14th amendment has no bearing on the words written in the Constitution nearly 100 years before. “
Obviously this is wrong in the the sense that all amendment modify the Constitution’s meaning.

[little jeremiah]

Correct! One down, how many to go?

Of course, if the head of the snake is cut off, all the vertebrae will be gone too!

I look forward to that happy day.

[Clinging Bitterly]

btrl

[edge919]

No distinction in the law or via the Supreme Court has ever been made between a 14th Amendment “born citizen” and an Article 2, Section 1 “natural born citizen.”

Absolutely wrong. This very distinction was made in Wong Kim Ark when it said :

"The Constitution nowhere defines the meaning of these words, either by way of inclusion or of exclusion, except insofar as this is done by the affirmative declaration that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States."

The above describes a 'born citizen' as being defined by Constitution (via the 14th amendment). Natural born citizen, it says only a couple of sentence later, is defined OUTSIDE the Constitution.

"In Minor v. Happersett, Chief Justice Waite, when construing, in behalf of the court, the very provision of the Fourteenth Amendment now in question, said: 'The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that.' "

This distinction is made at the beginning of the decision and upheld in the summary of the decision where it declares no one to be a natural born citizen. You really need to learn to read. You're not going to be successful in life without this ability.

[MHGinTN]

Didn’t you know, jamese777 is allowed to lie boldly for his demigod Barry the bastard.

[TheCipher]

Obviously this is wrong in the the sense that all amendment modify the Constitution’s meaning.

So, are you saying that the term citizens of the United States used in the 14th Ammendment is the same as natural-born citizens ?

[danamco]

“FALSE!”

Stop defending Obama. He *IS* the worst President in our lifetimes.

He may worst but he is NOT pResident and has NEVER been, and can NEVER be!!!

[TheCipher]

Here is more evidence that they are holding the stamp page of one passport over the signature page of another passport

Look at the picture of a passport again

Notice the eagle head on the signature page and it continues down onto the info page ( a security feature )

Now look at the info page of the Obama passport:

You see the neck feathers of the eagle. Now right above that ( on the next page ), you see the feathers continue into the neck of the eagle. That shows that the signature page is the next page on the passport. Therefore, THERE IS NO WAY to show the passport the way they did with the stamp page displayed next to the photo (info) page. The ONLY way to do that is to hold the stamp page of one passport over the signature page of another passport.

[stuartcr]

Sorry, you lost me. Don’t see what you’re getting at.