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Calif. won't appeal Prop 8 ruling (and judge says regular citizen have no standing)
UPI ^ | Aug. 12, 2010

Posted on 08/13/2010 4:15:28 AM PDT by xzins

SAN FRANCISCO, Aug. 12 (UPI) -- California will not appeal a U.S. judge's decision to lift a stay on his injunction blocking the state's voter-enacted ban on same-sex marriage, officials said.

U.S. District Court Judge Vaughn R. Walker said Thursday he would lift the stay and allow same-sex marriages to proceed, but not until Aug. 18. Such marriages would be permitted after that unless an appeals court, possibility the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit, issues a stay beyond the date.

Walker warned the amendment's sponsors may not have standing, or status, to make the appeal because they were not affected by the stay.

"As it appears at least doubtful that proponents will be able to proceed with their appeal without a state defendant, it remains unclear whether the court of appeals will be able to reach the merits of proponents' appeal," Walker wrote. "In light of those concerns, proponents may have little choice but to attempt to convince either the governor or the attorney general to file an appeal to ensure jurisdiction."

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and state Attorney General Jerry Brown had urged the judge to immediately lift the stay, allowing gay and lesbian marriages to go on during the legal process, and a spokesman for the governor indicated Thursday Schwarzenegger will not appeal the ruling, the Los Angeles Times reported.

"The governor supports the judge's ruling," spokesman Aaron McLear said.

If higher courts concur with Walker on the standing issue, they would not decide the issue on its merits, the newspaper said. However, the case could still get further hearings on procedural issues, during which time the ruling overturning Proposition 8 would stand in California.

In issuing a preliminary injunction Aug. 4 against the ban, a state constitutional amendment called Proposition 8, the judge said it "both unconstitutionally burdens the exercise of the fundamental right to marry and creates an irrational classification on the basis of sexual orientation."

The Times said the sponsors had warned they would go to the U.S. Supreme Court seeking a stay if Walker allowed same-sex marriages to continue.

California voters approved the ban in November 2008 by a 52.3 percent majority six months after the California Supreme Court ruled laws against same-sex marriage violated the state Constitution. The state court later upheld Prop 8 as a valid amendment to the state Constitution.


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To: P-Marlowe

Your reasoning is how we ended up with a Democratic run congress, because millions of people would rather have the RATS run up a trillion dollar defeict than a Bush 100 billion. I will take a smart business leader over a 40 year politican just on the outside they may get something done. Maybe you could bend a little to get rid of Jerry.


101 posted on 08/13/2010 10:51:53 AM PDT by q_an_a (a)
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To: xzins; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; wmfights; Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis
If the very sponsors of the amendment that was overturned by the judge do not have "standing", then it appears to me that the concept of standing has problems that the malicious use as a club.

The "ruling class" seems to think that since "they know better" we will just be good boys and girls and obey. I think in the end they will be shocked at the response.

102 posted on 08/13/2010 11:20:52 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: xzins

There is a reason these people are pompous and arrogant. Voters didn’t care for many, many, many years.

We’re now paying the price for that apathy.


103 posted on 08/13/2010 11:25:33 AM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: q_an_a
Maybe you could bend a little to get rid of Jerry.

Nope. I don't countenance to liars. Meg stole the nomination by lying about her positions. As soon as she got the nomination she started running left. She's the female version of Arnold. I would rather have a democrat to blame when this state finally folds up it's tent and sinks into the pacific. I'm going to vote third party on this one.

104 posted on 08/13/2010 11:25:39 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: sickoflibs; Carry_Okie; SunkenCiv

Do you have a ruling class ping list?

The law is supposed to be defended whether or not the executives (Governor nor Attorney General) agree with the law or not.

The arrogance of the ruling class must not be permitted to go on without them paying a penalty for such malfeasance.

I’d also believe Fair Opinion & her posse deserve to fry in hell for her aid in undermining the recall effort. Schwarzenegger is just as bad and arguably worse than Davis ever was.


105 posted on 08/13/2010 12:39:04 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus CONSERVATIVE is a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: xzins

“The Alliance Defense Fund, one of the organizations defending Prop. 8 in court, has said repeatedly that the ban’s proponents have full standing to carry on their fight, considering the gravity of the case and its impact on Californians.

“It’s ridiculous to think that the proponents of the ballot initiative would be prevented from continuing to represent the successful result of that initiative all the way,” said Douglas Napier, an Alliance Defense Fund lawyer.

Santa Clara University law Professor Margaret Russell said Napier and his colleagues might be able to overcome the standing issue raised by Walker.

“It’s an interesting question,” she said. “They weren’t the original defendants in this case, but I think that because they were the parties who actually tried the case in Walker’s court, they may have standing - because right now there is no other party to appeal.”

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/08/13/MNFA1ERRMV.DTL#ixzz0wW4eS7DL";


106 posted on 08/13/2010 12:40:49 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: SoldierDad

The nightmare is spreading. We have a gangsta in the White House and everyone in government from the top down is corrupt and godless. We have to find a way to bring this country back to what it was...back from evil to good.


107 posted on 08/13/2010 12:45:58 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: xzins

I’m a California voter - I should have standing!!!


108 posted on 08/13/2010 1:06:40 PM PDT by BAW (Arizona.got it right.)
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To: fatnotlazy

If the history of Israel is a guide, we are in for a very very very rough go for as long as it takes to return to God.


109 posted on 08/13/2010 1:44:42 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Papa of two new Army Brats! Congrats to my Soldier son and his wife.)
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To: concerned about politics
Valdemar Republic

I have no idea what that means. Do you mean Vladimir?

110 posted on 08/13/2010 1:58:10 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Lt. Col. Ralph Peters: Obama is the dog who caught the fire truck!)
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To: xzins
What does this mean, exactly? does this mean that we can no longer move forward with appeals to the next level? If so, one person has overthrown the government of the people, by the people: there is a remedy for this.
111 posted on 08/13/2010 2:03:55 PM PDT by happygrl (Continuing to predict that Obama will resign)
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To: Turbo Pig

Agreed.

When will a leader step forward to take our grievance process to the next level?


112 posted on 08/13/2010 2:17:08 PM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: happygrl

1st amendment: “right of the people to petition for redress of grievance.”

If not being able to appeal a case brought by the people in the first place isn’t an outrageous grievance, then nothing is.


113 posted on 08/13/2010 2:27:25 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Why would he be forced to? Homosexuals may be able to marry in civil ceremonies but the government can't force religions to violate their teachings.

No, but if the churches lose their tax exempt status on the backs of this ruling (a much shorter stretch than overturning Prop 8 and saying the voters that passed it have no standing to appeal) the vast majority of large churches will be out of business within a year as they went tens of millions of dollars into debt to build their rock-star sanctuaries.
114 posted on 08/13/2010 2:43:52 PM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: Sola Veritas
“Revolution is coming, it must come.”

Let us pray it is in the form of the voting booth.

The voting booth only works when people respect its result. this has been tried by the people of California twice now on this issue, with the same result. Both times, liberal elites have used the court system to overturn the will of the people.

Now this black robed nazgul has declared himself a dictator and stated that, for all intents and purposes his word is law.

Such a situation is beyond the ability of a ballot box to rectify.

115 posted on 08/13/2010 2:46:07 PM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: Yet_Again
No, but if the churches lose their tax exempt status on the backs of this ruling (a much shorter stretch than overturning Prop 8 and saying the voters that passed it have no standing to appeal) the vast majority of large churches will be out of business within a year as they went tens of millions of dollars into debt to build their rock-star sanctuaries.

I doubt that will happen. Some churches may do gay marriages but I don't think those that refuse will be forced to.

116 posted on 08/13/2010 2:58:04 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: wmfights
I think in the end they will be shocked at the response.

For what little time they have left as the swing by their necks...

117 posted on 08/13/2010 3:42:21 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Call me when the bullets start flying.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Valdemar Republic

I have no idea what that means.

I think it was meant to be the Weimar Republic

There seem many parallels between them and us right now...

118 posted on 08/13/2010 4:30:49 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: xzins
This situation becomes more outrageous by the day.

The state has declared that it will not defend a constitutional amendment legally approved in a popular vote by a majority of the state's citizens, and overturned in a ridiculous decision by one lone gay activist federal district court judge.

The government of California has utter contempt for the people of California.

This is untenable. If the normal processes of government no longer function, and citizens are disenfranchised and disregarded by an increasingly imperious ruling class, I fear we are rapidly approaching a time when violence will become the only recourse.

119 posted on 08/13/2010 4:54:24 PM PDT by mojito
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To: mojito

The American Revolution was not a Tea Party. It was preceded by a tea party.

After that, it was a war.


120 posted on 08/13/2010 5:13:15 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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