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The State of the War (NYT Throws Obama Under the Afghan Bus)
New York Times ^ | August 12, 2010 | NYT Editorial Board

Posted on 08/12/2010 7:53:44 PM PDT by Pan_Yan

We believe that the United States has a powerful national interest in Afghanistan, in depriving Al Qaeda of a safe haven on either side of the Afghanistan-Pakistan border. This country would also do enormous damage to its moral and strategic standing if it now simply abandoned the Afghan people to the Taliban’s brutalities.

But like many Americans, we are increasingly confused and anxious about the strategy in Afghanistan and wonder whether, at this late date, there is a chance of even minimal success.

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But reports from the ground have been so relentlessly grim — July’s death toll of 66 American troops was the highest since the war began — that Mr. Obama needs to do a better job right now of explaining the strategy and how he is measuring progress.

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Since then, the administration has sent a host — a cacophony — of conflicting signals about the deadline, the strategy and its commitment to the war.

Americans need regular, straight talk from President Obama about what is happening in Afghanistan, for good and ill, and the plan going forward. More ambiguity will only add to the anxiety and confusion.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; barackpower; barryblowsit; makebelieveballroom; noobarackpansies; nyt; obama; zer0cojones
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To: sushiman

“More and more I am getting the feeling that Obama , for some reason , will not run in 2012.”

Oh he will run alright. And, depending on whether or not the GOP is delighted to have him for second term, by choosing yet another loser, and if they do so again, he will win again. But if the GOP chooses Palin, he will lose by an avalanche of astronomical proportion. ie, a landslide.


21 posted on 08/12/2010 8:42:52 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (Freedom Watch: fight for freedom with everything you have.)
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To: Pan_Yan
Americans need regular, straight talk from President Obama...

Regular straight talk....from Obama?

The NYT Editorial Board cannot be that freaking stupid. It's impossible. Or is it?

22 posted on 08/12/2010 8:46:14 PM PDT by ILS21R ("Every night before I go to sleep, I think who would throw stones at me?", she said)
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To: Pan_Yan

The NYT Editorial Board

23 posted on 08/12/2010 8:52:49 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Liberty Valance

Not gay enough.


24 posted on 08/12/2010 9:03:44 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Pan_Yan
*ROFLMAO!*
25 posted on 08/12/2010 9:04:59 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Pan_Yan

The NY Times is simply agitating for Karzai’s ouster...because Karzai is the real deal instead of someone whom they can stage manage.

That’s their entire motivation for the editorial. 100%.

Yes, 100%.

Everything else in the editorial is designed to convey that singular objective into terms that the White House of 2010 understands.


26 posted on 08/12/2010 9:06:58 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Soothesayer

“We just have to defeat the Taleeeeeban...”

Please! It’s Tah-leee-bahn. They’ll be SO upset if you don’t pronounce their name exactly the way they and the flap-eared socialist want us to.


27 posted on 08/12/2010 9:08:07 PM PDT by Magic Fingers
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To: Liberty Valance
I thought this was the NUKTIMES editoral board....


28 posted on 08/12/2010 9:14:49 PM PDT by sjmjax
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To: sjmjax

That’s one heckuva cheap shot! To Curly, Moe and Larry, that is...


29 posted on 08/12/2010 9:37:15 PM PDT by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: Magic Fingers

How about if we just use up all remaining ammo now against Tahleeebahn, everything the 250,000 troops have, shoot it out over the next week, then we all leave immediately, come home and declare victory. Anybody so much as take a donkey ride after, they get a cruise missile up the donkey.

We need these troops redeployed on the Mexico border.


30 posted on 08/12/2010 10:10:00 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: sushiman
"If the NY slimes think we have a powerful national interest in Afghanistan you can bet that we do not ."

I nominate this for the post of the month.

This is cover for some new White House announcement/strategy.

31 posted on 08/12/2010 10:11:04 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Pan_Yan

Obama out his guy in charge, then loses our fellow US citizens in combat at a rate three times that of GWB, but it’s GWB’s fault... NYT, the grey lady with alzheimers, forgettin the facts, but enjoying the song from the dead parrot.


32 posted on 08/12/2010 10:13:32 PM PDT by Waverunner
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To: sjmjax

33 posted on 08/12/2010 11:41:53 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: SunkenCiv
a cacophony

A cacophony, indeed...

34 posted on 08/12/2010 11:45:42 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: sushiman
Would her married surname begin with a C ?

Is her *ss bigger than a breadbox?

35 posted on 08/12/2010 11:46:54 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Pan_Yan

Hey NYT! Good luck with that whole straight talk thing... let us know how that works out for ya...

Bawahahahahahahaha Like they would know straight talk!! Hahaha What a freaking laugh!


36 posted on 08/13/2010 12:30:30 AM PDT by Danae (If Liberals were only moderately insane, they would be tollerable. Alas, such is not the case.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Its Fred again at the discombobulator... he has the spork weasel up too high... AGAIN!....


37 posted on 08/13/2010 12:31:59 AM PDT by Danae (If Liberals were only moderately insane, they would be tollerable. Alas, such is not the case.)
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To: sushiman
The NYT and all the liberal mediacrats refuse to acknowledge one simple point. George Bush and his administration were faced with some enormously difficult problems - Guantanamo, Iraq and Afghanistan come to mind. They carefully analyzed the options. (There were no perfect solutions, only options). They took what they considered the most appropriate steps to contain those situations. At every move, Obama and his lib buddies in the media played Monday morning quarterback. Every decision was decimated for its weak points. There was never any demand for counter solutions and there was never an admission that this might be as good as we can do.

Obama campaigned on closing Gitmo within a year. Now he seems to have had an epiphany - hmmm, it isn't going to be easy to send these thugs to another country as we assumed and it certainly isn't going to be easy to have trials for them in the US. Result? Obama is proceeding with the same strategy that Bush undertook BECAUSE Bush's plan was the best way to proceed in a near impossible situation.

p.s. When will someone ask what is happening to that $237 million dollars that Obama put in his budget to purchase a little-used ILLINOIS prison for the purpose of moving Gitmo prisoners onto U.S. soil? Do we now own it and will we use it? Amazing how little coverage that got!

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2010/02/obama_budget_to_include_237_mi.html

38 posted on 08/13/2010 3:10:41 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT (General, sir, it's ok to call me "ma'am"!)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT

Good points all.


39 posted on 08/13/2010 3:42:13 AM PDT by livius
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To: Pan_Yan

The huge national interest actually lies in the connection between the taliban/al qaeda and Pakistan. Pakistan is a nuclear nation, and it is unfathomable for the jihadists to gain entry into OR control of the Pakistani government.

I worry less about the taliban forcing burquas on afghanis. If they want serfdom, then let them have it.

And when they get to be a bothersome infestation, then come again and clean them out. Eventually, a government will arise that wants to stay in power and leave others alone.

But Pakistan’s nukes are a huge issue.


40 posted on 08/13/2010 3:58:08 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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