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From Hollywood: To Hitler with Love (Stalin, too)
Renew America ^ | 8/2/2010 | Wes Vernnon

Posted on 08/11/2010 8:32:45 AM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman

Why am I not surprised that a leading Hollywood director is bemoaning poor, misunderstood Adolf's place in history? Oliver Stone says his upcoming Showtime documentary series Secret History of America will put the 20th century's star butchers Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin "in context." That Hollywood would glorify Stalin is hardly a shock to anyone. If you go back to many Cold War-era movies, you will find tortured excuses — even fulsome praise — for Mother Russia. Only Nazi Germany was allowed to appear on the screen as evil incarnate. For decades, Hitler has been the perfect role model as villain — right out of "central casting."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hitler; oliverstone
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1 posted on 08/11/2010 8:32:46 AM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

“That’s exactly why we want to produce this movie. To show the world the true Hitler, the Hitler you loved, the Hitler you knew, the Hitler with a song in his heart.”


2 posted on 08/11/2010 8:34:00 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

These movies, or movie, will utterly bomb in the box offices, bet....


3 posted on 08/11/2010 8:34:34 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

Stupid and misleading headline.


4 posted on 08/11/2010 8:35:27 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

Nazism is no longer needed as Hollywood’s standard of evil now that Christianity has taken its place as the focus of wickedness.


5 posted on 08/11/2010 8:35:41 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

I used to work with someone who held a doctorate in history, and had done his dissertation on a specific period of German history (sorry, forgot which century), and liked to visit Germany now and then. He said one of his favorite ways to interact, was to go to a pub, and offer to buy a beer for one or two locals, and get them talking. At the first beer, Hitler was “a terrible man! A horrible time in our history”; after the 2nd, “...but you know, he did some good things...” and by the 3rd, “by G-D, we need a man like Hitler today.”

He found it frightening that so many were just 3 beers away from wanting Hitler back. My friend was physically handicapped - and would have been exterminated in Hitler’s Germany.


6 posted on 08/11/2010 8:38:38 AM PDT by knittnmom ("...only dead fish 'go with the flow'". - Sarah Palin 7/09)
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To: cranked
These movies, or movie, will utterly bomb in the box offices, bet....

Don't you see, darling Bloom, glorious Bloom? It's so simple. STEP ONE: We find the worst movie ever written, a surefire flop. STEP TWO: I raise a million bucks. Lots of little old ladies out there. STEP THREE: You go back to work on the books, two of them - one for the government, one for us. You can do it, Bloom; you're a wizard! STEP FOUR: We open in theaters. And before you can say STEP FIVE, we *close* in theaters! STEP SIX: We take our million bucks and fly to *Rio!*

7 posted on 08/11/2010 8:39:30 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Germany was having trouble
What a sad, sad story
Needed a new leader to restore
Its former glory

Where, oh, where was he?
Where could that man be?
We looked around and then we found
The man for you and me

And now it’s springtime for Hitler and Germany
Deutschland is happy and gay
We’re marching to a faster pace
Look out, here comes the master race

Springtime for Hitler and Germany
Winter for Poland and France
Springtime for Hitler and Germany
Come on, Germans go into your dance

I was born in Dusseldorf
And that is why they call me Rolf
Don’t be stupid, be a smarty
Come and join the Nazi party

Springtime for Hitler and Germany
Goose-step’s the new step today
Bombs falling from the skies again
Deutschland is on the rise again

Springtime for Hitler and Germany
U-boats are sailing once more
Springtime for Hitler and Germany

Means that
Soon we’ll be going
We’ve got to be going
You know we’ll be going to war


8 posted on 08/11/2010 8:42:41 AM PDT by Ronbo1948
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

Do you think that American Jews have figured out that the Left is not their friend?

I know Jews want to be peacemakers, and want to love everybody, and think of the Right as inimical to their instincts to take care of everybody, which instincts are good, only misguided in thinking that the Left really has that intention at heart, or that it can be done from the top down with the assistance of a “benevolent People’s dictatorship”.

But I’m wondering if they’re waking up to the hard realities.


9 posted on 08/11/2010 8:43:04 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: knittnmom

Hitler vas, shure, a very bat mann, but he luft shildern undt docs.


10 posted on 08/11/2010 8:46:50 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The naked casuistry of the high priests of Warmism would make a Jesuit blush.)
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

The article makes some good points; in a proper context, you could show how eastern Europe simply replaced one oppressive conqueror with another. But that’s stating the obvious; everyone with a brain knows this.

My reservation is about entrusting Oliver Stone of all people to deliver the message. I don’t think you will see any new ground broken here. It will be the same leftist “Hitler was evil, but Stalin merely did what he had to do in order to build a great nation” sort of crap. It will be dressed up and packaged as a “fresh look” at the 20th Century dictators. But Hollywood has their own core values of political correctness that will never be violated. Hollywood will always portray Stalin as a sort of “Batman” character; a “dark hero” of history. And we won’t ever get anything else.


11 posted on 08/11/2010 8:48:46 AM PDT by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“Hitler, THERE was a painter...he could paint an entire apartment in one afternoon....TWO COATS!”


12 posted on 08/11/2010 8:48:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Franz Liebkind: You know, not many people know zis, but der Fuhrer was a terrific dancer.
Max Bialystock: Really? Gee, we didn’t know that, did we, Leo?
Leo Bloom: No, we sure didn’t.
Franz Liebkind: THAT’S BECAUSE YOU WERE TAKEN IN BY THE BBC! Filthy British lies! But did they ever say a bad word about Winston Churchill? CHURCHILL!
[gags]
Franz Liebkind: With his cigars, and his brandy, and his ROTTEN paintings! ROTTEN! Hitler, there was a painter! He could paint an entire apartment in one afternoon! Two coats!


13 posted on 08/11/2010 8:49:00 AM PDT by xp38
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

Who knew that Will Ferrell was parodying Oliver Stone with his over-the-top performance in The Producers!

14 posted on 08/11/2010 8:49:00 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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Skip that version, stick with the Zero Mostel/Gene Wilder version.


15 posted on 08/11/2010 8:50:32 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Ronbo1948

In the original movie, Rolf is played by Mel Brooks.


16 posted on 08/11/2010 8:51:07 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Ronbo1948

One and one is two, two and two is four, I feel so bad ‘cause I’m losing the war...


17 posted on 08/11/2010 8:56:03 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Olympiad Fisherman

The Left always says that criminals, dictators, wolves, Muslim terrorists and other predators are just misunderstood.


18 posted on 08/11/2010 8:58:18 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: knittnmom

Bit of exaggeration. More true a generation ago than now. But as far as Hitler is concerned, do not confuse the confused madman of 1945 with the man at his best. As Speer tells us, when he met Hitler he was disarmed by Hitler who in person was aware of his reputation and admitted his shortcomings. I once read account of a mayor who spent hours and said he behaved in general like an good Burger, and discussed even Jews in a rational manner. Great personal magnetism despite a very ordinary appearance. Concealed the devil inside very well.


19 posted on 08/11/2010 9:01:09 AM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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Dear Westbrook,

Too many, including many Jews, have bought into Stalin’s lie that Nazism was a right wing phenomenon, and this continues to cloud judgment today. In actuality, although the Nazis were radical on race, they were just left of center on many other political issues. Specificly, it was the killing of the SA strong leftist homosexual leader Rohm in 1934 by Hitler, Goering, and Himmler that continues to haunt all historical studies on Nazism. However, Rohm was not killed not for ideology, but for pure expediency and raw power. Once the Nazis were able to get on top of the Wehrmacht (the army) without a shot being fired, Rohm not only became expendable, but also a liability (he was initially to be used to take control of the army). The Nazis thus compromised their leftist ideology of the 20’s for the sake of rawpower in the 30’s, all in the name of moderation and image. With great interest as well, with Rohm out of the way, the ‘green’ triumvirate of Hess, Himmler, and Goering replaced the ‘pink’ in the upper eschelons of the Nazi Party. Curiously, Stalin kept Beria, who was not only in charge of the NKVD (early KGB), but also an extreme sadistic sexual pervert.


20 posted on 08/11/2010 9:03:18 AM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman (Olympiad Fisherman)
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