Posted on 08/06/2010 7:48:36 PM PDT by CedarDave
State Police are investigating as a double homicide the deaths of two people whose burned bodies were found in a burned-out camper near Santa Rosa, the state Department of Public Safety said Thursday.
Gary and Linda Haas' bodies was found by a rancher in a 32-foot travel trailer about on a ranch 10 miles west of Santa Rosa and three miles north of Interstate 40. Two well-groomed dogs were also found near the camper, according to a search warrant.
State Police used the contact information on the dog tags to contact the Haases' daughter, who said the dogs belonged to her parents, the court document says.
The couple often stayed in state parks on their trip, including an area near Santa Rosa, the daughter said.
She described the couple as "very self-sufficient" and said both had concealed-carry firearms licenses.
The couple's white Chevrolet pickup pulling the camper was found in Albuquerque through OnStar, but police said there were no video surveillance cameras nearby and no witnesses who could describe any occupant of the truck.
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I think that’s good advice.
http://newsok.com/search-warrant-sheds-new-light-on-homicide/article/3483383
Their daughter said they stayed in state campgrounds on these trips, and the one near Santa Rosa was one where they usually stayed.
Remember what I said up thread about surveillance cameras?
I looked at the satellite image and google guy of the Edith-Osuna area last night, and it looks much like I remembered it from being there. Pretty barren. There aren’t any shopping centers around that intersection that are that developed.
Don't know where your looking but, according to Google Earth, 6601 Fourth Street Albuquerque, New Mexico is located right in a shopping center, just as I suggested the photo of the truck indicated.
Hmmm. Well, at least, they have surveillance cameras recording their stay. However, criminals are so bold these days that cameras, while being useful in solving the crimes, don’t seem to be much of a deterrent.
The surveillance camera that has been mentioned is prior to the truck & trailer being separated. So, probably prior to the death of those found in the trailer.
Look at my next comment about the shopping center. It is actually quite a way from edith/osuna initially reported. But Osuna and 4th in that area are still very desolate around that shopping center.
Las Vegas has always been that way, nothing new. If you got a bit west over the mtns into the Espanola/Chimayo area, it is even worse.
Osuna/San Mateo is not the first exit going north, nor was the area where the pickup was located near the interstate.
Of course, however my point stands regarding my comment about surveillance cameras and their widespread use.
Look at my next comment about the shopping center. It is actually quite a way from edith/osuna initially reported. But Osuna and 4th in that area are still very desolate around that shopping center.
You provided and address and it shows right in the middle of a shopping center...Look it up.
In addition, can you seriously examine the picture of the victims truck, and say this is not a shopping center?
In fact, I’d be very surprised if they have no video of the suspect/suspects exiting the victims vehicle and or driving in the area.
OMG! I never said it wasn’t a shopping center. I said that @ Osuna & Edith, where the news initially reported the location, there was not a shopping center that resembled the one in the picture.
Later, this morning, I found the additional address, quite a bit down the road from Edith/Osuna. Yes, that is the shopping center, but I repeated that beyond that shopping center, that the area around there is not well developed. In other words, you aren’t going to have security cameras on building after building picking up the motion of that vehicle. I would really believe that there are no security cameras focusing on the parking lot of that shopping center, given the area.
Relax...
Here is what you said.
#37 The area where the truck was dumped is a mixture of industrial/residential. Not a lot of fast food places, etc. The article mentions there were not any nearby video cameras to assist.
#54 Going back to the picture of the pickup. I haven’t lived in ABQ for quite some time, but I looked at the satellite image and google guy of the Edith-Osuna area last night, and it looks much like I remembered it from being there. Pretty barren. There aren’t any shopping centers around that intersection that are that developed.
#56 New article gives a specific address: 6601 Fourth Street. This is several blocks down from the Edith/Osuna area. Still pretty barren in and around the way there.
This would seems to indicate there is a strong possibility the vehicle and it's suspect occupants were possibly caught on video surveillance.
You need to chill and possibly take some reading comprehension classes?... I am a NM native, lived in ABQ for many years, and worked @ Osuna & Jefferson for many years. So, please stop acting like you know more than I do. And, I would defer to someone who has lived there more recently than I have.
Yes, all one needed to do is examine the image of the victims vehicle to determine that.
but I repeated that beyond that shopping center, that the area around there is not well developed.
Actually, it is.
In other words, you aren’t going to have security cameras on building after building picking up the motion of that vehicle.
No one suggested that. You were told that the use of video cameras nowadays is wide spread enough where most would be surprised...It's even common now to have home residential surveillance cameras. Their cheap.
I would really believe that there are no security cameras focusing on the parking lot of that shopping center, given the area.
That would be up to the LEOs to determine and check out.
Trust me, they will being going along the entire route from the crime scene to the where the suspects dropped off the victims vehicle, looking for video cameras and witnesses.
Or they may just have taken a local bus south on fourth to the Grayhound terminal. Sorry, you will have to argue with my wife who was raised in ABQ / Rio Rancho.
Wow, well your wife may be a bit off. Shall I list off all of the I-25 exits that are MUCH closer to I-40, or north of Osuna?
And, Osuna is a really long, barren drive. So, yes, unless they were grabbing a local bus downtown, to get on greyhound (although there would be much better and closer places to drop off the truck than this location), they are a long way from I-25.
Ok, dragnet. I don’t know how else to explain this. It is not a well developed area. There is the shopping center at that intersection, but going away from that in any direction you will see what I mean. I can see it being a great place to dump a car because of the area.
We are talking an old community in ABQ.
Wrong...lol
There is the shopping center at that intersection, but going away from that in any direction you will see what I mean.
There is a Bank of America, an Autozone, a Pharmacy, a Big Lots store, Supercuts, Taco Bell and other restarurants in the immediate area/intersection, all located around a shopping center. You don't consider this well developed? LOL!
We are talking an old community in ABQ.
The age of the community has nothing to do with this.
You have argued this is a "barren" area, in and around this area, with little development.....Not true at all...
No; written by a tired FReeper last night.
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