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LTC Lakin Makes Formal Request of Hawaii Deposition
safeguardourconstitution ^ | 7/29/2010 | American Patriot Foundation

Posted on 07/29/2010 1:01:40 AM PDT by rxsid

"Press Release: Lakin Makes Formal Request of Hawaii Deposition

American Patriot Foundation, Inc.
1101 Thirtieth Street, N.W., Suite 500
Washington, D.C. 20007
www.safeguardourconstitution.com

DECORATED ARMY DOCTOR LTC TERRY LAKIN MAKES FORMAL REQUEST TO COMMANDING GENERAL FOR DEPOSITION OF HAWAII STATE DEPT OF HEALTH

Testimony Sought of “Custodian of Records” AND Production of all records relating to President

Decision to be made by Army Major General

Washington, D.C., July 29, 2010. The Army doctor who is facing a court martial for refusing to obey orders, including a deployment order for his second tour of duty in Afghanistan, has formally requested his Commanding General approve a deposition in Hawaii of the records-keeper of the State Department of Health—and the production of all of their records concerning Barack Obama.

The records Lakin seeks have been the subject of intense interest ever since the closing days of the 2008 presidential campaign when a document appeared on the internet purporting to be a certification that Hawaii’s Dept. of Health had records showing he had been born in Honolulu. Since then, Dr. Chiyome Fukino the head of that agency has made public statements on the subject, but has refused all requests for copies of the actual records in the Department’s custody. Recently, a former Hawaii elections clerk has come forward saying that he was told that the Department’s records showed Obama was NOT born in Hawaii.

The United States Constitution requires that a person be a “natural born citizen” to be elected to the presidency. If Mr. Obama was not born in Honolulu as he has claimed, then he is unlikely to be a “natural born citizen”. An examination of the records kept by the Hawaii Dept. of Health are an essential first step in ascertaining Mr. Obama’s constitutional eligibility to hold the office to which he was elected in 2008.

While no civil litigant has obtained discovery of these records, and all the civil lawsuits seeking those records have been dismissed on procedural grounds, Lakin’s case is different because he is the subject of criminal prosecution, and upon conviction stands in jeopardy of being sentenced to years at hard labor in the penitentiary.

Lakin’s request was submitted by his counsel to the Commanding General of the Military District of Washington, Major General Karl R. Horst, under Rule 702(b) of the Rules for Courts-Martial, which provides that “A convening authority who has the charges for disposition or, after referral, the convening authority or the military judge may order that a deposition be taken on request of a party.”

Lakin’s civilian attorney has been provided to him by the American Patriot Foundation, a non-profit group incorporated in 2003 to foster appreciation and respect for the U.S. Constitution, which has established a fund for Lakin’s legal defense to LTC Lakin. Further details are available on the Foundation’s website, www.safeguardourconstitution.com."

http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com/press-release/pressrelease20100728.html


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: certifigate; lakin; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: Prole

Go to my home page, if you will. Click on In Forum. Then read some of my 11,000ish posts. I rarely post on birther threads.


101 posted on 07/29/2010 9:10:51 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: PA-RIVER
The American people are not going to be amused with Mr. Obama when they see Mr. Lakin being punished.

Bears repeating.

Especially since the whole damn situation could be resolved by Obama coming clean.

But Obama will not do that, and therefore, a decent man is about to have his life ruined.

102 posted on 07/29/2010 9:12:04 AM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: Mr Rogers

Did you fly in Linebacker II?


103 posted on 07/29/2010 9:21:49 AM PDT by Exmil_UK
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To: Cboldt
I understand the argument my opponent makes, and you toss a gratuitous insult.

You are right. That was uncivil of me. I apologize.

104 posted on 07/29/2010 9:23:07 AM PDT by Pilsner
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To: Mr Rogers
Based on folks I know, I’d say MOST military members think Lakin is in the wrong.

You are either a liar, an imbecile or both.

Regardless, your tripe most likely doesn't include Marines, or other Conservatives in today's ranks.

105 posted on 07/29/2010 9:27:11 AM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: Prole
Thanks.

This going to get ugly beyond belief if Lakin goes to jail, and they must send him to jail as an example. A private with no pension will have a free “get out of Afghanistan ticket” if they dont.

If Obama is playing games and has a legitimate long form, he is going to be hated and despised for hiding it and allowing this man to go to jail. If he continues to hide it, the contempt for him will grow even faster.

We are almost at a point where its a “Lose - Lose” for Obama to keep hiding it.

Mr. Gibbs will need to start mocking half of America soon. When that happens, Politically, its over. Obama can pack his bags.

106 posted on 07/29/2010 9:30:55 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Mr Rogers
Your remarks were not responsive, in that they did not agree or disagree with "No person born on US soil can be a dual citizen."

And extending that, that no person born in the US, regardless of the citizenship of their parents, is amenable to citizenship claims by another country. So, a child born in the US, to German citizens, is a US citizen (natural born, to boot), and therefore has allegiance to the US. Must that person register for the US military draft, etc.?

107 posted on 07/29/2010 9:31:58 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Mr Rogers
-- If the person chooses to live as a US citizen, then no other country can force their citizenship upon him. --

Adding, that this quality pertains to naturalized citizens, just as much as it does to those who obtain citizenship other than by naturalization.

108 posted on 07/29/2010 9:34:17 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Prole
If only people like Non-Sequitur, Rogers and the rest of these weasels spent half as much energy discussing the clear and present danger that stems from Obama and his ilk.

THIS IS THE POINT!!!

The birther issue is the distraction. Obama is merely signing the legislation that his "ilk" are crafting and passing...and the Dem congress are born and bred US radical leftists. It's the liberal agenda that is the problem! Much of the legislation that was proposed has been sitting on the shelf for decades...long before Obama even thought about politics.

Conservative majorities are the goal...birtherism is an impediment to achieving it.

109 posted on 07/29/2010 9:37:01 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Exmil_UK

Linebacker 2 was WAY before my time. I started in the early 80s.


110 posted on 07/29/2010 9:40:42 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: danamco
How about to get a real job for a change???

Observing Birther antics is more of a hobby than a job.

111 posted on 07/29/2010 9:42:01 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Prole

The only ex-Marines I know are my oldest daughter and her husband, who agree with me about deploying.

And all the military I know are conservatives, as am I. Conservatives believe in keeping the military out of politics. If Lakin wanted to quit and then bring up a court case, I would only think he was wasting his time.


112 posted on 07/29/2010 9:45:12 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: verity
"More grasping at straws. lol"

I don't find any of this going on to be funny.

113 posted on 07/29/2010 9:45:21 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Prole
I don't know why I waste my time talking to a drone like you.

Look at it from my side. Poking holes in your posts is an absolute blast.

It's because they don't give a rat's ass about anyone but themselves.

And whose ass does Lakin give a rat about? Other than his own? I mean the man had a legal defense fund up and running long before any charges were filed. What is his real motivation in this? The good of the Army? The good of the country? Or the good of Lakin?

114 posted on 07/29/2010 9:46:24 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Cboldt

“So, a child born in the US, to German citizens, is a US citizen (natural born, to boot), and therefore has allegiance to the US. Must that person register for the US military draft, etc.? “

If in the USA, yes. If living in Germany and having shown no desire to live in the US, no.

See Perkins v Elg:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2499682/posts


115 posted on 07/29/2010 9:48:54 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

“Will the good Colonel EVER meet up with a commanding officer with guts?”

Like the CMOH winner that referred him to a court martial?


116 posted on 07/29/2010 9:49:00 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
The birther issue is the distraction.

The "birther" issue is in fact the core issue. Zero's hidden birth record will show what country he was born in and who his parents are. Both of which are determining factors in his legal "Natural Born Citizen" status. Zero will never of his own volition release his birth record because he knows it is legal evidence of his violation of the constitution. To say this is a distraction is to say that the constitution is just another piece of paper.

117 posted on 07/29/2010 9:49:25 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: PA-RIVER
And the truth is, Mr. Lakin has refused to accept orders from a man who has refused to show his birth documents.

The truth is that Lakin never received an order from a man who refused to show his birth certificate. He refused to obey an order from his brigade commander and the officer next rung higher on his COs chain of command. He'll be tried and convicted for that.

The American people are not going to be amused with Mr. Obama when they see Mr. Lakin being punished.

Did the American people give a damn when Ehren Watada was court martialed? Or Yolanda Huet-Vaughan was separated from her children and sent to Leavenworth for a couple of years? Or Michael New or any of the other people who decided for themselves that they could decide what orders to follow and what not to? The overwhelming majority of the country is not going to care one way or the other that Lakin threw his career down the toilet.

For the average citizen, this will be disgusting.

The average citizen has never and will never hear of it. It's a blip in the evening news, maybe, in some places.

118 posted on 07/29/2010 9:53:43 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: bushpilot1

Like how GWB was “Selected, not elected”?


119 posted on 07/29/2010 9:54:07 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Cboldt
Had, at birth. His campaign materials admitted Obama had dual citizenship at birth.

You are correct to ephasize the past tense. At birth, the Queen of England claimed him as a subject, even though he never did anything to benefit from his subjecthood, and then did nothing to retain in when he became an adult.

Why should we, who fought a war to free ourselves from the Tyrrany of English kings, condition our presidential eligibility based on the arbitrary claims of English kings?

120 posted on 07/29/2010 10:00:04 AM PDT by curiosity
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