Posted on 07/28/2010 5:51:02 AM PDT by Colquhoun
The Coast Guard has gathered evidence it failed to follow its own firefighting policy during the Deepwater Horizon disaster and is investigating whether the chaotic spraying of tons of salt water by private boats contributed to sinking the ill-fated oil rig, according to interviews and documents.
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Coast Guard officials told the Center for Public Integrity that the service does not have the expertise to fight an oil rig fire and that its response to the April 20 explosion may have broken the service’s own rules by failing to ensure a firefighting expert supervised the half-dozen private boats that answered the Deepwater Horizon’s distress call to fight the blaze.
(Excerpt) Read more at publicintegrity.org ...
Absolutly. I said this from the start. They sank it spraying it with the fire hoses and filling it up with water. You do not put that much water on a marine fire that water will not stom.
Me, too. I thought this was a no-brainer.
So...this begs the question why the Coast Guard proceeded in a manner that violated their procedures. Whose idea was it?
Just wondering has BP sent any of its ROVs over to video the sunken rig?
YOU think that they SWAMPED the rig , because they were spraying WATER on it. I guess it would have been better to just LET IT BURN, no matter how many WORKERS it killed, because you think the RIG would be STABLE and capable of supporting the 5000' of HEAVY PIPE/CORDS/CABLES/FLOATS. Now, since you would have to put a NEW DRILLING RIG OVER the TOP of the 'PIPE', if we leave the BURNED TO THE WATERLINE RIG there to hold it up, we would have to AIRLIFT the NEW RIG and HOVER it just above the OLD ONE. Do you have some HELICOPTERS big enough to lift and hold a DRILLING RIG SHIP?Besides, the water SPRAYED onto the rig was not what sunk it.
I gotta say, of all the ideas/rumors I have read, yours is among the top 10 of the craziest and totally improbable.
Believe it or not that is probably why it sank. The fire itself may bnot have sunk it. Improper firefighting can easily sink a ship. Water is ineffective on open fires of that type. It can be used in enclosed areas in some conditions.
Let me be the first to advance the ever popular theme that the fire should have been put out with an ATOMIC BOMB! There’s nothing that can’t be fixed with an ATOMIC BOMB! Just ask the Russians...
Saw some wreckage on one of the ROVs about a week ago. Looked weird. At first it almost looked like a road was on the seafloor, but I think that was a tower laying flat. Lots of other various pieces. Looks like it is getting kinda buried with silt, but they went over it during a sonar sounding. Might have been NE of the BOP, but that is out of memory. If they go back to area for sonar, keep an eye out, but they are very busy right now. Have done an incredible amount of work the past 24-48 hours.
I was pinging UCANSEE2 to this thread. What I linked and blockquoted was UCANSEE2's response to me, when I said the rig may have been lost on account of firefighting efforts.
Do they really think so?
This is about the dumbest thing I have seen in a sequence of superlatives in ignorance.
The day this happened we said, “they are going to sink the rig”. How could one expect anything else when the rig was left with hatches open and power out? The water has to go somewhere. It didn’t all turn into steam or go back in the ocean.
Get ready for crippling fuel prices. It will take some time but they are coming, the die is cast. You can’t shut down a factory without running short of inventory some time. Stopping drilling is like shutting down a factory.
Hopefully the bad news will come for these stupid obastards right in the midst of elections and the stupid pubbies will pull off the gloves to use the facts for a change.
The rig was doomed to sink the minute it was abandoned while on fire.
"As firefighters on shore and in fire boats poured water on the blaze, the ship developed a dangerous list to port due to water pumped into the seaward side by fireboats. About 2:45am on February 10, Lafayette capsized, nearly crushing a fire boat."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Normandie
When I read your post out loud, do I shout the capitalized words?
If you want. But I rarely (not never) use all caps for emphasis. What you are referring to as "my post" is something I blockquoted from somebody else. The original is at the link.
That would sure eliminate a lot of problems Pronto. I was even thinking we should develop Atomic Ham Bombs to drop on the Muzzie Terrorists.
You got it. If hatches were open and water gets in then it could list over and fill. Then down she goes.
Even well trained volunteer firemen know to cool things off and get the flame away from the fuel, and from pics I have seen, they were not effective at that with the boats pumping water onto the rig.
It is just a matter of adversely affecting stability, (light plant down, pumps not working) once it capsizes, its done.
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