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Airlines Return To Profitability
NPR ^ | 07/22/2010 | Wendy Kaufman

Posted on 07/23/2010 2:38:49 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The U.S. airline industry is rebounding. For the sixth consecutive month, carriers brought in more money than they did last year.

"We are seeing some light at the end of the tunnel," says Dave Castelveter of the Air Transport Association, an industry trade group. "You know we have been faced with challenges like none other."

The industry was clobbered after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Then the global economy soured, and people stopped traveling. Fuel prices climbed to record levels.

In response, the airlines had to cut costs. They reduced the number of flights and slashed their payrolls. They began adding fees for things like food and luggage. Some airlines, like Delta and Northwest, even merged.

Passengers are now paying about 20 percent more for airplane tickets than they paid a year ago. And the number of passengers -– especially business travelers — who often pay higher fares is increasing.

Industry analyst Richard Aboulafia of the Teal Group says that with the demand for tickets quite strong, the airlines are in the driver's seat.

"The one thing you want … when numbers come roaring back as they are now is that seats are at a premium because you've cut so many of them," he says, "and therefore you have more pricing power and your profits go up."

This week, Delta Air Lines reported its largest quarterly profit in more than a decade. United and US Airways posted their first profits since 2007.

Some airlines are now beginning to order new planes and rehire workers. But, Aboulafia says, airlines will be very careful not to add too many new flights too quickly.

"They're going to be pretty reluctant to add a whole lot of capacity," he says. "That means that things are only going to get a little tighter for the consumer, a little more expensive."

So travelers may have to book early and shop more carefully.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airline; earnings; profitability
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1 posted on 07/23/2010 2:38:52 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
For the sixth consecutive month, carriers brought in more money than they did last year.

Don't bank too heavily on those consecutive months airlines. You have now become a target of the socialists in this country. How dare you actually make money.

2 posted on 07/23/2010 2:45:49 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Call me when the bullets start flying.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Alert the Tax Czar immediately!


3 posted on 07/23/2010 2:46:17 PM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: y'all

I think a lot of companies are looking profitable due
to the reduced payrolls.

And, millions busting butt to keep their jobs.

I bet there is a bunch of unpaid overtime being put in.


4 posted on 07/23/2010 2:50:05 PM PDT by Cyber Ninja (Live and let live; is not working...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Guess they gouged the customers enough.


5 posted on 07/23/2010 2:52:14 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue
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To: OnTheDress
Well, there are a lot of reasons. First, they have cut costs to the bone by having only a handful of flights (always full) and have gone to tiny aircraft for anything but cross country (cheap, but really uncomfortable). Second, they have fees for everything. Third, once thriving hubs like Dayton and Cincy are dying. Cincy closed a whole terminal wing; Dayton has had half the air traffic since U.S. Air pulled out.

So, certainly they are making money. But it's not like the old days of making money and providing FULL service. It's like a return to buckboards.

6 posted on 07/23/2010 2:58:32 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: SeekAndFind

Profitability... Can’t have that.


7 posted on 07/23/2010 3:00:47 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: SeekAndFind
I believe it. Went to and from Hawaii and they were very efficient at filling the planes and charging for bags you brought on the plane.
8 posted on 07/23/2010 3:02:29 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: SeekAndFind

How can the Bamster take over if they are making money?


9 posted on 07/23/2010 3:05:04 PM PDT by archivist007
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To: SeekAndFind
And they all suck.

Lost bags, poor service, poor boarding procedures, bad food, national flights no food, no smoking, no alcholhic drinks for free anymore, no free check in baggage on most, unfriendly overworked stewardesses, no pilot wings for kids, no open cockpit to go into or even to talk to the crew anymore...........

Flying nowadays is like being stuffed into a local public transit bus. I'm waiting for the gang graffiti. Long gone is the fancy and glory of flight. The pilots are glorified bus drivers, the new ugly stewardesses wear sexless tasteless PC uniforms, the aircraft inside is cheap, plastic, and classless.

Modern air travel: http://www.staffordbuscentre.com/images/M62-stage-dart—int.jpg

I prefer to fly myself when I can. I don't have to worry about some TSA moron thinking I might hijack an airplane with my nail clippers. I can carry my weapon with me, and not have to deal with some idiot counter decoration from an airline that thinks checking in a gun is some big deal..............

To me, flying commercially has lost all its fun. It has become a painful event.

*** Someone should start a new airline, “Nostalgia Air.”

They need aircraft like the Constellation, DC6, for commutes a Trimotor. The insides need to be plush, smoking is allowed, drinks are gratuitous, the cockpit is in plain view, kids need catered too, and the stewardess should have no metal piercings in her face, seat-belts are optional, and my seat should NOT serve as a floatation device. The food should not be mushy and actually have a taste, and the pilot should be allowed to say nothing because I'd rather he say nothing then a bunch of gay crap.

10 posted on 07/23/2010 3:07:23 PM PDT by Red6 (IMHO)
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To: LS
So, certainly they are making money. But it's not like the old days of making money and providing FULL service

Now tell us dollar for dollar what you paid for that FULL service. Airfares since deregulation are incredibly inexpensive compared to the so called "good old days. This is really apparent when you factor in the cost of fuel when Jet fuel was about 1/10th the cost of fuel today.

11 posted on 07/23/2010 3:07:42 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: Red6

Hey Red....then fly yourself and quit bitching. It’s your choice!


12 posted on 07/23/2010 3:10:46 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: LS

Most people just don’t want to pay for “full” service. Adjusted for inflation, fares are a fraction of what they were decades ago. And incidentally... air travel wasn’t all that comfy back then either. Seats were small and planes were crowded and smoky and babies still screamed and and people still bitched about the food.

But it was new and jets were sexy and “flying” was still a prestigious way to travel, so we loved it even though it was a lot more crowded than a Greyhound bus. But nowadays, it’s not the fresh new thing it was. It’s just another inconvenience in our extraordinarily over-convenienced little lives.

Comfortable flying is available in first class, which I am usually happy to pay for. It makes a huge difference to me.


13 posted on 07/23/2010 3:12:52 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: SeekAndFind; All
Going forward the Pratt and Whitney Geared Turbofans...

Game changer is the word many wonkish aircraft magazines and pontificators use.

In an industry that would kill for a reduction in TSFC of 1.5% these engines will offer a 12 to 15% (if not 16%) reduction in TSFC.

1st roll out is in 100 seat aircraft 2013ish, and the concept is scale-able. GE IMHO has no trump card ergo them going green on the Obama tweet.

Then the airlines might have some real margins...


14 posted on 07/23/2010 3:13:00 PM PDT by taildragger ((Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: Red6

Fly first class then. All that stuff you want is there, except, sadly the smoking (I hear you there). All you have to do is pay for it.


15 posted on 07/23/2010 3:16:12 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Red6

“...and the pilot should be allowed to say nothing because I’d rather he say nothing then a bunch of gay crap.”

What if the pilot had this to say?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWxGKVozHtc


16 posted on 07/23/2010 3:34:21 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: jersey117

Wait till Zero finds out.


17 posted on 07/23/2010 3:48:46 PM PDT by MaxMax (Conservatism isn't a party)
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To: Ramius

The cabin smoking ban wouldn’t be so bad if they didn’t get so overly hysterical about disabling the lavatory smoke detectors....


18 posted on 07/23/2010 3:50:46 PM PDT by kevao
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To: Red6
I prefer to fly myself when I can.

Lucky you. The rest of us slobs just have to make the decision: put up with the crap of flying commercially or not? Over 10 years ago I chose "not". I have restricted myself to driving around the USA.

I'm not going to be bullyed around by the TSA. They can ram it.

19 posted on 07/23/2010 4:00:32 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: kevao

LOL. Yeah, dontcha hate that? :-)

I’ve gone smokeless. Copenhagen. Keeps me from clawing my face off.


20 posted on 07/23/2010 4:07:18 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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