Posted on 07/13/2010 10:24:53 AM PDT by Stayfrosty
BELFAST, Northern Ireland (AP) — Northern Ireland leaders condemned Irish nationalist rioters Tuesday who wounded 82 police officers during two nights of street clashes sparked by the province's annual parades by the British Protestant majority.
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How's life in the parallel universe? I bet the sky is red in your world.
“Being an Irisch Convert (Cath to Pot) . . . .”
(I keed, I keed. : )
(I messed up my attempt at posting so I apologize if this is the second appearance)
I follow NI politics.
My gut feel on why this one is worse than previously is due to two things:
1) There are more young punks (yobs) out of work now than last year. Take a look at the pics associated w/this story in the Belfast Telegraph. Everyone getting violent looks like a teenager.
2) Recently released Bloody Sunday report got eveyone thinking about the earlier days in The Troubles.
So, I think the yobs simply are taking the opportunity to raise hell. Sort of like how some Iraq war protesters seem (to me at least) like they want to recapture the spirit of the Viet Nam War protests, more than they actually want to protest the war itself. Combine this w/the mentality of those waiting to riot after that verdict in CA.
I think that’s what you have here.
I believe Catholics have they’re own marches in Prod territory too, so you have that “stick it to you” hateful-mentality on both sides.
There is a small chance that CIRA is taking advantage of the relatively poor economics to do some recruiting, but I haven’t heard they were associated w/12th violence this go around.
“I’ll go where I like, thanks.”
Well, whtats what I get for asking nicely..
“Take your complaining elsewhere. My points were valid.”
Your points were selective and the conclusions obtuse and childlike.... For every ‘Prtos are bad to Catholics I can find Catholics being bad to Prots... To bring it up here displays a very limited view of the whole thing.
“Actually the left rarely uses Ireland as an example of “Christian Terrorism””
Really? Are you that uninformed or do you just want to drag out the argument?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism
The left does what they always do, take a single situation and warp it around to be an example of whatever great ‘evil’ is currently spinning around their empty head... Kind of like what you’re doing.
“Nope. The reason for the invasion, occupation, repression, rebellion, and the marches is ultimately religion.”
Hmm so when Then catholic Englan invaded the Catholic france were they trying to convert them to.... Catholics
England wanted land, and in Ireland they had a weak neighbor with no bordering nations. Please don’t state your opinion as if it were a fact..
When England first assaulted Ireland (1100) both nations were Catholic and England did it with the full authority of a Papal Bull. From then on England always had an eye on Ireland no matter what church the nation fought under.
“It started in religious turmoil.”
It started 900 years ago when both peoples were Catholic...
I hate it when Protestants don't act like Catholics.
You are probably right. IMHO though there will never be peace until the British leave with their Army. People can argue all they want but that is a fact. The Irish catholics see them as an invading and occupying force. Shouldn’t the UK be dedicating those forces to Afghanistan instead? It is long past due that NI govern itself.
The Protestants are the ones whocame to occupy Cathloic Northen Ireland incase you don’t know Irish history. They came and tried to stave them out during the blight which bought many to this country my family included. We have not forgotten.
The Protestants are the ones whocame to occupy Cathloic Northen Ireland incase you don’t know Irish history. They came and tried to starve them out during the blight which bought many to this country my family included. We have not forgotten.
Why would the Catholics have to move they have been there for Centuries it is their homeland. The Orange order are the invades. Some of you just don’t know history very well.
Then you really have not been paying attention.
IRA terrorists at funerals without fail cover their faces as they fire their Libyan supplied pistols over the dead terrorist.
Actually, another recent development is that there is now shared police powers with Catholics and Protestants in the PSNI. The prior police, the RUC, was basically Brit army. So in a sense you mention they are “out” to some degree, though, since terrorism still exists, MI5 maintains a strong presence, as it did before.
True, they are still sovereigned by UK and maybe the Catholics will never be satisfied until “all Brits get out”, but that situation is not likely to happen. Sort of like Muslims not wanting any Jews in the mideast - keep dreamin’.
Basically, without committing genocide, the ultimate solution will be political. For that to begin to work, the institutionalized abuses have to end first, hopefully to which, the power sharing in the PSNI will contribute.
Yes, people who are “the invades” should return home.
I for one will the the first to welcome my cousins as they return leaving the occupied territories to the rightful owners, the true Americans.
I don’t know a lot about history, but I did know that,
thank you. Using your logic then you should leave and
go back to Europe where your family came from. This is
the logic that the feather indians and the mexicans
have been using for three hundred years. No, I won’t
go back to Europe and if the Irish want N.I. back then
get some guns and take it back. They won’t, they can’t,
so they blowup women and children of public buses,
like the Muslims!
Your post made zero sense and has nothing to do with pointing out my typo of invaders.
“I hate it when Roman Catholics start acting like
Muslims.”
I was thinking:
“The OTHER religion of peace.”
NI governs itself, and Republicans sit in that government.
Until the people decide via the ballot box that they no longer wish to remain in the UK, in the UK they will remain.
They will almost certainly NOT become part of Eire, the majority does not want it and even after the passage of decades a large enough minority does not want it.
All this hopeless misty eyed romantisim about “One Ireland” sounds great from thousands of miles away, but its never going to happen. The only result of years of financial support of terrorism from NORAID and the like was more dead civilians.
NI was the last part of the UK to get home rule, Wales and Scotland came first and nobody died to get it. A lesson seemingly lost on some.
My family has been in this country for over 326 years and some were native Americans so telling me to go anywhere is going to be hard depending on which side of the family you want me to follow? The IRA never acted like Muslims and by that statment you have shown you know zero about Irish history. When was the last tme you head that muslims warned when the bombs would go off? Children and women were never targeted so stop your BS!
Children and women sure did have a very annoying habit of being in the places being bombed though.
Who would have thought they would be public places like streets lined with shops during the day !
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