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Drop 'miles per gallon' as fuel measure, says US National Research Council
Telegraph.co.uk ^

Posted on 07/13/2010 8:04:34 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Drop 'miles per gallon' as fuel measure, says US National Research Council

The US National Research Council has said that "miles per gallon" should not be used on its own in measuring a car's fuel use, backing a green motorist's group which called the measure "stupid".

By Tom Chivers Published: 2:57PM BST 13 Jul 2010

The NRC said that the measure caused consumers to overestimate the importance of changes at high miles-per-gallon (mpg) values, and underestimate it at small ones. Particularly, it says: "Fuel economy data cause consumers to undervalue small increases (1-4 mpg) in fuel economy for vehicles in the 15-30 mpg range."

The panel urged that fuel use be displayed as fuel consumed - perhaps as volume of fuel used per 100 miles - alongside the traditional miles-per-gallon measure. This standard is used already in Europe, with fuel use being given in terms of litres used per 100 kilometres travelled.

An environmental motoring website, GreenCarReports.com, welcomed the move, saying that it had been calling for the change for over a year and describing the mpg measure as "stupid". It asks the question: "Do you save more gasoline by going from 10 to 20 mpg, or going from 33 to 50 mpg?"

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Apparently nothing better to do........
1 posted on 07/13/2010 8:04:35 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

What happens when busy bodies have no lives of their own.


2 posted on 07/13/2010 8:07:56 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there.)
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To: Sub-Driver

How bout meters per liter?

Then everybody can have spectacular mileage.


3 posted on 07/13/2010 8:10:04 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Sub-Driver

My 454 K2500 Burb gets about 5 mpg when I’m towing something. So do I save more money by running over the Prius in my way or slowing down and traveling at 45mph with him? I say run over it.


4 posted on 07/13/2010 8:11:58 AM PDT by anton
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To: Sub-Driver

It’s all about motive. The self righteous greenies want to move to mileage tax.


5 posted on 07/13/2010 8:13:13 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: Sub-Driver
The panel urged that fuel use be displayed as fuel consumed - perhaps as volume of fuel used per 100 miles

25 MPG equals 4 gallons consumed over 100 miles (using the same math I learned more than 35 years ago). How many gallons is that in public school education math this month?

6 posted on 07/13/2010 8:16:33 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberal Logic: Mandatory health insurance is constitutional - enforcing immigration law is not.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Why not give people a more useful yard stick with which to compare vehicles.

Dollars per year incurred to operate a vehicle given 15,000 miles travelled would be a good yard stick.

Most people know what they can afford in their budget. With mileage ratings they have to do the math.

7 posted on 07/13/2010 8:18:03 AM PDT by Pontiac
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To: Sub-Driver

How would these guys know what measure is more effective? They don’t even drive cars.
MPG is more accurate than L/100KM, has better real life application and is easier to calculate.


8 posted on 07/13/2010 8:19:03 AM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: Sub-Driver

Why can’t these greenie weenies invent something instead of redefining something that’s currently accepted?

Oops... I think I just answered my question.


9 posted on 07/13/2010 8:19:24 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15)
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How about something reasonable, like cost to operate per mile.

When you add in the abuse that you put on a lightweight vehicle when it goes more than 12,000 miles a year, the MPG goes out the window.


10 posted on 07/13/2010 8:21:35 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I lived in VT for four years. That was enough.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Good thing the calculation doesn’t include pi. In a lot of “public” schools pi=3. When I was going to school in the 60’s we learned 3.14159.


11 posted on 07/13/2010 8:22:18 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15)
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To: Sub-Driver

Changing it makes sense. Distance traveled per gallon is more meaningful and provides a better comparison. Why the resistance? It’s not as if they’re suggesting we go metric.


12 posted on 07/13/2010 8:23:56 AM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: Sub-Driver
How about Furlongs per fortnight?..............
13 posted on 07/13/2010 8:25:00 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. He's just some guy in the neighborhood.............)
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To: Sub-Driver

How about metric tons of carbon emission per kilometer?


14 posted on 07/13/2010 8:25:13 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (For the first time in half a century, there is no former KKK member in the US Senate.)
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To: Sub-Driver
[Art.] This standard is used already in Europe, with fuel use being given in terms of litres used per 100 kilometres travelled.

Oh, well, hell -- debate over!

They do it that way in Europe!!!

"Bow down, bow ye all down, bow down before the Light of the World!!"

</Sir Walter Scott>

15 posted on 07/13/2010 8:26:30 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Sub-Driver

How about “evil exploitation of the world’s resources sin points” per mile /sarc


16 posted on 07/13/2010 8:27:40 AM PDT by P.O.E. ("Now who's being naive, Kaye?" - M. Corleone)
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To: Sub-Driver
An environmental motoring website, GreenCarReports.com, welcomed the move, saying that it had been calling for the change for over a year and describing the mpg measure as "stupid".

Leftists sure like to throw the word "stupid" around. Maybe it's projection.

17 posted on 07/13/2010 8:28:13 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: Sub-Driver

Hogsheads per furlong?


18 posted on 07/13/2010 8:28:26 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: OrioleFan
When I was going to school in the 60’s we learned 3.14159.

That value had to be rounded to 3 because five decimal place accuracy was deemed racist.

19 posted on 07/13/2010 8:29:10 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Sub-Driver
It asks the question: "Do you save more gasoline by going from 10 to 20 mpg, or going from 33 to 50 mpg?"

Obviously by going from 10 to 20. You are doubling your milage per gallon. Everybody knows that the low end of the range is where the big savings are.

This is just more "Europe Is Better" nonsense. It all means the same thing, but this guy reflexively believes that the European way is the smart way and the American way is "stupid".

It's always that way with this type of guy.

20 posted on 07/13/2010 8:29:40 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Gov. Chris Christie (R) won the NJ-6 held by Rep. Frank Pallone (D) by a 15.5% margin!)
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