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NY 23 District Republican Congressional Primary Race (FUBAR)
North Country Public Radio ^ | July 9, 2010 | Brian Mann

Posted on 07/10/2010 9:26:00 PM PDT by onona

As the weeks grind by, I'm hearing more back-room chatter from Republicans that this election may be slipping through their fingers, despite the apparent vulnerability of Democratic Rep. Bill Owens.

Mr. Owens won a special election victory less than a year ago, inching across the finish line by the narrowest of margins. Since then, Democratic policies and President Barack Obama have lost some luster with voters.

So why aren't Republicans capitalizing? Put bluntly, they despise and distrust each other.

When I talk to GOP stalwarts — the kind of folks who are generally supporting Mr. Doheny — they express open skepticism about their ability to partner with the tea party activists who are supporting Doug Hoffman.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: belongsinbloggers; doughoffman
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Republican Disfunctionalism - WTF - this seat has been the pubbies FOREVER !
1 posted on 07/10/2010 9:26:04 PM PDT by onona
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To: onona

To all of Brian’s blog followers:
I received a nice message today from NPR, thanking us for allowing Brian to join the team covering the oil spill in the Gulf…and for distributing a press release on Brian’s imminent participation in that effort. For NCPR, it was a no-brainer: we have a topnotch reporter who can certainly add to the work being done by NPR for the American public. This is a big story. It needs all the resources we can muster to cover it. Go get ‘em, Brian!


2 posted on 07/10/2010 9:31:17 PM PDT by jessduntno (A-Stan: "illiterate peasants in caves, ruled by "warlords" ... not a target for "nation building.")
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To: onona
Doug should step out....he had his chance....

live together or die alone...

I would guess that "tea party" candidates are heavily funded by the rat party...just like perot...and look how Toon was elected..

3 posted on 07/10/2010 9:43:30 PM PDT by cherry
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To: onona; The Mayor

The NY Republican party is so screwed up that it’s going to probably squander the best opportunity it’s had in a generation.

They need to be taught a serious lesson. It is unfortunate that this lesson has to happen at a time when it could cost the national party dearly, but these NY GOPers must be taught the lesson.

They are trying to force Loosio on us for governor. They refuse to run a real candidate against Gillibrand. They continue to mess around with the rank and file on all of the available house seats. Well, my friends, the story is that it’s going to be scorched earth for conservatives in NY VERY damn soon.

The results will be very ugly and will affect the national GOP’s chances of gaining the house/senate. It is unfortunate that they have left the few of us who care (also known as their base who can kill their chances of winning) hanging out to dry.


4 posted on 07/10/2010 10:10:18 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: cherry

cherry, Republican primaries scare ya? Cancel this one and concede to Doheny? Fat chance.


5 posted on 07/10/2010 10:15:53 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: onona
Both Hoffman and Doheny are conservative on the issues except Doheny seems to have an abortion problem.

So in NY-23, a district I once called home, I would endorse Hoffman.

That said, Hoffman's new third party threats, his populist mocking of Doheny's Wall Street experience, his whiny voice and his ugly yellow teeth makes him somebody I don't like very much.

6 posted on 07/10/2010 10:20:56 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: onona
What's the concern? We didn't win this one last time because we're fractured by back-room decision. This time, we'll have a primary. Whoever win, I hope, will be supported by the loser's supporters.

Concerns on Tea-party Republican v. Establishment Republican applies to other places too. Yet, I'm hoping that come November they cast their votes for the primary winner.

7 posted on 07/10/2010 10:21:34 PM PDT by paudio (Mr. 0bama, focus on Gulf, not Golf.)
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To: onona

Maybe RINO Newt can screw it up again even more. Sh*thead RINO and RINOs in NY-23.


8 posted on 07/10/2010 10:30:05 PM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

RINO NY GOP like RINO FL GOP and Marcos Rubio claiming he is a tea party candidate and he is against AZ’s law.

Viva La Raza! Viva La Familia! Marco!


9 posted on 07/10/2010 10:33:24 PM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: onona
Stupid effing idiots - like all the idiot Western Europeans leading up to WWII, dithering around and squabbling while the fascists built their forces up.


10 posted on 07/10/2010 10:33:50 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

This state is destroying itself with all the corrupt politicians from both sides... That is why I drafted Paladino. The 23rd seat is a disaster once again....


11 posted on 07/10/2010 10:49:14 PM PDT by The Mayor (Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is Liberty!)
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To: The Mayor

I’m with you and Carl. Unfortunately, these people aren’t going to give up without losing the battle completely. The good news is that we can win the war, but it means probably losing the election.


12 posted on 07/10/2010 10:53:16 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: cherry
Doug should step out....he had his chance....

Why should he step out? This is a PRIMARY. This is where the ideas between Republican candidates are supposed to be hashed out.

It's my understanding that the only reason he got into the race last time was because a committee of leaders, NOT the voters, chose Dede Scozzafava, so he wanted the voters to have a real choice. Now, if he's defeated in the primary, THEN decides to run as an independent, that wouldn't be be good for the party, and at that point I'd say he'd had his chance, and should step down.

Interesting though, that a MR. Scozzafava is one of the people being quoted as favoring Mr. Owens. I guess he and Dede weren't very strong Republicans.

13 posted on 07/10/2010 11:49:06 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

that Mr. S. is no relation to Dede. He’s just a local big mouth.


14 posted on 07/11/2010 4:35:24 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

theory: this district is scattered across such a large area (of 200 or so towns or more) ... that there are thousands or local pols that have an opinion on this, each with access to a small town newspaper.

So it’s easy for a nobody talking to a nobody reporter to create a story. In most CD’s (like mine for example), there are fewer towns, fewer local pols, and most of them don’t have access to the press to create stories like this. (In fact, this minor league battling takes place in primaries all over the country in just about every race. It just isn’t published in the press to this extent.)

So there is nothing new under the sun here.


15 posted on 07/11/2010 4:43:42 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: SuziQ

“Moriah supervisor Tom Scozzafava openly endorsed Mr. Owens’ re-election bid.”

http://74.6.239.67/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=essex+county+election+results&fr=yfp-t-892&u=www.co.essex.ny.us/enight.pdf&w=essex+county+election+elections+results+result&d=AiX3R7ZfVCfL&icp=1&.intl=us&sig=FM42h8oQBPuV2N.4Ty1Arw

Owens 607
Dede 140
Doug Hoffman 495

Moriah is a beautiful little town, but you can see that in elections, it amounts to a spot of oil in the road. And they are quoting the town supervisor’s endorsement as something significant?


16 posted on 07/11/2010 4:53:27 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

All the following should be competitive seats and at least half of them should be GOP pickups: NY 1, 13, 29, 20, 23, 24, 25. But in many of them a true conservative is being sabotaged by a RINO and the RINO’s supporters and party leaders. I hope Doheny beats Hoffman in NY 23.


17 posted on 07/11/2010 6:22:55 AM PDT by randita (Visit keyhouseraces.com for a list of vulnerable DEM and must hold GOP House seats.)
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To: randita
randita: "I hope Doheny beats Hoffman in NY 23."

we have a Doheny fan here. Yeah! RINO Power!
18 posted on 07/11/2010 8:19:37 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

I’m not a RINO fan. I just though Hoffman ran terrible campaign last time and don’t think he’ll do any better this time. I wish there were a real conservative in that race who could win. I just don’t think Hoffman can. I hope I’m pleasantly surprised.


19 posted on 07/11/2010 8:38:20 AM PDT by randita (Visit keyhouseraces.com for a list of vulnerable DEM and must hold GOP House seats.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

After doing some more research, the only thing I could find where Doheny could be pegged as a RINO is the he is pro-abortion in the first trimester. On other issues, he passes the conservative test unless his website and articles concerning his views are not true.

Chris Gibson, who is the presumptive candidate in NY 20, has the same view on abortion, but is also conservative on other issues of import.


20 posted on 07/11/2010 8:55:05 AM PDT by randita (Visit keyhouseraces.com for a list of vulnerable DEM and must hold GOP House seats.)
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