Posted on 07/01/2010 7:08:29 AM PDT by Ogie Oglethorpe
Don’t get it?
The earmark for the gun range was 80% money for the party in Nevada, and maybe 20% for the range.
IOW, the range was merely another avenue to direct tax dollars to the party.
What?????????????
Sounds like the left has turned the conrner on dismantling the NRA-and to me it sounds like from the inside-all of you “loyal members for years etc” are swallowing everything you hear, most of it out of context. If the NRA loses momentum, it will be because of a good PR attack on it focused towards its membership.
If LaPeierre and Cox are sell-outs, then the board must do the right thing and push them aside.
I agree-the article giving Reid a bye was a travesty, DISCLOSE is pure unadulterated unconstitutional fodder, and if this full endorsement of Reid is in fact to be, then we, the constituent membership of the NRA, MUST change it, not leave it! That is what the left wants, even if they are not actively doing it...
Steadfast, stalwarts, dig in for the long haul.
All said, I really do wonder how many of you who declare yor intent to flee, actually are/were dues paying voting memebrs? Probably a small percentage.
Best;
This is no surprise to me. We got out of the NRA a number of years ago, because we could see them headed in this direction.
Recent headlines of a Left-leaning NRA.
NRA Now Leans Toward Endorsing Harry Reid
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/07/01/nra-now-leans-toward-endorsing-harry-reid/
NRA bails on Constitution to pursue self-interest
(they did not oppose passage of the DISCLOSE Act)
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=169109
NRA Discourages Board Members From Testifying Against Kagan
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/06/27/nra-discourages-board-members-from-testifying-against-kagan/
This really p!$$es me off ! I hate these *******ed sellouts ! Regardless of party, affiliation, they need to be ****en run out !
Harry Reid needs to go !
We quit giving money to the NRA for the same reason we stopped sending money to the Republican Party.
We didn’t change. They did. They know what it takes to get us back. I’m not going to send money that I can’t afford to send to any organization that is selling out the principles that people who love this country and her Founding Documents hold dear.
I’ll go back to supporting them when they go back to being what made me support them in the first place.
Guess you're not aware that Neal Knox tried exactly that in the late 90's. The "powers that be" pushed Neal and his followers out of the organization.
Of course I ripped off another email right to the NRA and this is the response I got specifically on this issue:
Thank you for contacting NRA-ILA regarding the recent rumor that NRA-PVF has indicated they will endorse Harry Reid.
Regarding any potential endorsement of Sen. Reid in the upcoming elections, NRA-PVF has not yet announced any ratings or endorsements in this race. Ratings and endorsements will be determined closer to the election. It is important to note, however, that the NRA is a single issue organization and that when our ratings and endorsements are announced, they are based solely on a candidate’s support for, or opposition to, our Second Amendment rights. Other issues, as important as they may be to many people, do not and cannot play any role in those decisions. NRA represents a broad coalition of American gun owners, who are bound together by their support for the right to keep and bear arms.
In 2004, Senator Reid was rated “B” in his reelection by the NRA Political Victory Fund. Since then, as U.S. Senate Majority Leader, Senator Reid has proven himself to be a supporter of our Second Amendment rights. It would be accurate to say that few, if any, of NRA’s legislative victories in Congress during the last six years would have occurred without his active support.
As an example, he was instrumental in Senate passage (and eventual enactment into law) of the “Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act” (PLCAA)”, which shut down reckless lawsuits against gun manufacturers and dealers that attempted to hold them liable for the misuse of firearms by criminals. Sen. Reid also cosponsored S. 659 (PLCCA) in the 108th Congress and voted against “poison pill” amendments to it, including the Feinstein Amendment to renew the federal ban on so-called “assault weapons”, and the Kennedy Amendment that would have banned most hunting ammunition.
I tinkered with this to make it more effective
Following Hurricane Katrina, he voted for legislation, that is now federal law, to prohibit gun confiscation during states of emergency. He also voted for legislation to allow commercial airline pilots to be armed in the cockpit to protect their passengers and crew. In this congressional session, Sen. Reid voted for the Ensign Amendment to repeal Washington D.C.’s gun ban and restore self-defense rights in our nation’s capital. He cosponsored similar legislation—S. 1414—in the 108th Congress. He also voted for an amendment to allow law-abiding citizens to carry firearms for self-defense in national parks and wildlife refuges. This federal policy change just took effect on February 22.
Early last year, Sen. Reid emphatically stated that he would oppose any effort to reinstate an “assault weapons” ban if the Senate were to vote on it in the future. In addition, he voted last year for the Thune-Vitter Amendment to provide national reciprocity for state Right-to-Carry permits. He also voted twice for the Wicker Amendment allowing Amtrak passengers to include firearms in their checked luggage. These votes were possible only because of Senator Reid’s actions in his capacity as Senate Majority Leader. Finally, he was among the 58 Senators who signed the pro-gun congressional amicus brief in the McDonald v. Chicago case, argued before the U.S. Supreme Court on March 2nd, which will decide whether the Second Amendment applies to all states and localities.
Most recently, the NRA worked with Sen. Reid to include in his manager’s amendment to the health care reform bill a provision that prohibits the disclosure or collection of information relating to the lawful ownership, use or storage of firearms or ammunition and also prohibits lawful gun ownership, possession and use from being used as a factor to determine eligibility or premium rates for health insurance. This provision was adopted on December 22, 2009 and was included in this legislation when it was signed into law on March 23.
Finally, Senator Reid is opposed to any anti-gun treaties that might come before the U.S. Senate for ratification.
These are a few examples of Senator Reid’s support and leadership on Second Amendment issues. Given the Senate could vote on gun-related issues in the coming months, rest assured any votes will be considered in future candidate evaluations.Regarding NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre and NRA-ILA Executive Director Chris Cox recently attending the grand opening of the Clark County Shooting Park (CCSP) with U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and other Nevada elected officials.
The CCSP is the largest shooting park in the world. This 2,900-acre state-of-the-art facility is devoted entirely to the shooting sports and is the nation’s premier shooting park. As the nation’s largest shooting sports organization, the NRA’s presence at the ribbon-cutting ceremony should come as no surprise. NRA actively worked with several Members of the Nevada congressional delegation, including Senator Reid, to ensure that this range was built. The development and construction of the CCSP has the full bipartisan support of the Nevada congressional delegation, and Nevada’s Republican Governor.
Senator Reid was instrumental in arranging not only the transfer of the then-federal lands to Clark County where the Park is located, but also in securing $61 million in funding to develop and build the Park. The Clark County Shooting Park would not have been built without his active efforts and support.
Once again, thank you for your inquiry.
Sincerely,
Susan Christman
NRA-ILA Grassroots Division
I can only speak for myself - I joined the NRA in 1995, right about the time they started battling the Clinton machine. I resigned in 2004 after they endorsed Arlen Specter (who signed the '93 Clinton "assault weapon" gun ban) over Pat Toomey (100% pro-gun record) in the PA Senate race. I have supported GOA ever since.
I never said I was a current member - I just encouraged current members to reevaluate their position if this goes through.
Hope that helps -
OO
We realized a long time ago that the NRA is not always our friend. There are several guns rights organizations that do a much better job for 2A supporters.
You all know who they are—and they need our support much more than the NRA does.
What a laugh - NRA Grass Roots Division!
Gag me with a chainsaw; they are as elitist as can be.
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Thank you for contacting NRA-ILA regarding the recent rumor that NRA-PVF has indicated they will endorse Harry Reid.
Regarding any potential endorsement of Sen. Reid in the upcoming elections, NRA-PVF has not yet announced any ratings or endorsements in this race. Ratings and endorsements will be determined closer to the election. It is important to note, however, that the NRA is a single issue organization and that when our ratings and endorsements are announced, they are based solely on a candidate's support for, or opposition to, our Second Amendment rights. Other issues, as important as they may be to many people, do not and cannot play any role in those decisions. NRA represents a broad coalition of American gun owners, who are bound together by their support for the right to keep and bear arms.
In 2004, Senator Reid was rated "B" in his reelection by the NRA Political Victory Fund. Since then, as U.S. Senate Majority Leader, Senator Reid has proven himself to be a supporter of our Second Amendment rights. It would be accurate to say that few, if any, of NRA's legislative victories in Congress during the last six years would have occurred without his active support.
As an example, he was instrumental in Senate passage (and eventual enactment into law) of the "Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act" (PLCAA)", which shut down reckless lawsuits against gun manufacturers and dealers that attempted to hold them liable for the misuse of firearms by criminals. Sen. Reid also cosponsored S. 659 (PLCCA) in the 108th Congress and voted against "poison pill" amendments to it, including the Feinstein Amendment to renew the federal ban on so-called "assault weapons", and the Kennedy Amendment that would have banned most hunting ammunition. I tinkered with this to make it more effective
Following Hurricane Katrina, he voted for legislation, that is now federal law, to prohibit gun confiscation during states of emergency. He also voted for legislation to allow commercial airline pilots to be armed in the cockpit to protect their passengers and crew. In this congressional session, Sen. Reid voted for the Ensign Amendment to repeal Washington D.C.'s gun ban and restore self-defense rights in our nation's capital. He cosponsored similar legislation--S. 1414--in the 108th Congress. He also voted for an amendment to allow law-abiding citizens to carry firearms for self-defense in national parks and wildlife refuges. This federal policy change just took effect on February 22.
Early last year, Sen. Reid emphatically stated that he would oppose any effort to reinstate an "assault weapons" ban if the Senate were to vote on it in the future. In addition, he voted last year for the Thune-Vitter Amendment to provide national reciprocity for state Right-to-Carry permits. He also voted twice for the Wicker Amendment allowing Amtrak passengers to include firearms in their checked luggage. These votes were possible only because of Senator Reid's actions in his capacity as Senate Majority Leader. Finally, he was among the 58 Senators who signed the pro-gun congressional amicus brief in the McDonald v. Chicago case, argued before the U.S. Supreme Court on March 2nd, which will decide whether the Second Amendment applies to all states and localities.
Most recently, the NRA worked with Sen. Reid to include in his manager's amendment to the health care reform bill a provision that prohibits the disclosure or collection of information relating to the lawful ownership, use or storage of firearms or ammunition and also prohibits lawful gun ownership, possession and use from being used as a factor to determine eligibility or premium rates for health insurance. This provision was adopted on December 22, 2009 and was included in this legislation when it was signed into law on March 23.
Finally, Senator Reid is opposed to any anti-gun treaties that might come before the U.S. Senate for ratification.
These are a few examples of Senator Reid's support and leadership on Second Amendment issues. Given the Senate could vote on gun-related issues in the coming months, rest assured any votes will be considered in future candidate evaluations.Regarding NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre and NRA-ILA Executive Director Chris Cox recently attending the grand opening of the Clark County Shooting Park (CCSP) with U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and other Nevada elected officials.
The CCSP is the largest shooting park in the world. This 2,900-acre state-of-the-art facility is devoted entirely to the shooting sports and is the nation's premier shooting park. As the nation's largest shooting sports organization, the NRA's presence at the ribbon-cutting ceremony should come as no surprise. NRA actively worked with several Members of the Nevada congressional delegation, including Senator Reid, to ensure that this range was built. The development and construction of the CCSP has the full bipartisan support of the Nevada congressional delegation, and Nevada's Republican Governor.
Senator Reid was instrumental in arranging not only the transfer of the then-federal lands to Clark County where the Park is located, but also in securing $61 million in funding to develop and build the Park. The Clark County Shooting Park would not have been built without his active efforts and support.
Once again, thank you for your inquiry.
Yours in Freedom,
Michael Land NRA-ILA Grassroots Division
Maybe NRA can merge with AARP and become NRAAARP.
Translation:
Yes we are in bed with Dingy Harry, and we are enjoying every minute of it!
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Looks like 1,000-plus words straight from Reid’s campaign office.
Not another dime. They can kiss my azz goodbye. Life member.
Yep. It is disgusting. I really miss “Moses”.
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