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Court: Christian group can't bar gays, get funding (Christian Legal Society v. Martinez)
AP ^ | 06/28/2010 | Staff

Posted on 06/28/2010 8:21:47 AM PDT by OldDeckHand

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court says a law school can legally deny recognition to a Christian student group that won't let gays join.

The court on Monday turned away an appeal from the Christian Legal Society, which sued to get funding and recognition from the University of California's Hastings College of the Law.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; 501c3; academicbias; celebratesin; christians; christianstudents; culturewar; downisup; firstamendment; gays; hastings; homosexualagenda; jesus; judicialactivism; liberalfascism; liberalkoolaid; moralabsolutes; sexpositiveagenda
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To: OldDeckHand

Can a straight Christian join their gay group?


41 posted on 06/28/2010 8:54:10 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray, Pray, Pray. Stop Barrystroika.)
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To: tutstar

Yep. I heard a pastor say “the worst insult one can receive is ‘I didn’t know you were a Christian’.” I personally am sick to death of Christians who feel it is unBiblical to have righteous anger and do something. It is for the Kingdom we should move.


42 posted on 06/28/2010 8:57:14 AM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: OldDeckHand

Justice Kennedy the double-crosser, again! Oh, what a different nation we would have been if instead we had a Justice Bork.


43 posted on 06/28/2010 9:01:18 AM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

The issue is more complex than simply not taking funding. Students are assessed fees in addition to their tuition by student government which then distributes funding to campus organizations. So Christian students will be forced to pay for other organization’s budgets and facilities and will never have access to money and facilities of their own.


44 posted on 06/28/2010 9:02:35 AM PDT by Blackyce (President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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To: OldDeckHand
He who pays the piper calls the tune. Don't expect to get funding and not have those providing the funds mess with your doctrine.

The Catholic Church should note this as they push for "vouchers" to keep their schools from closing. Either self-fund, or fold.

45 posted on 06/28/2010 9:06:14 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: AliVeritas
"Can a straight Christian join their gay group?"

Yes. And, a Republican could join the Democrat student group, and if he got enough of his Republican friends to join with him, he could conceivably lead the Democrat club.

46 posted on 06/28/2010 9:06:58 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand
GINSBURG, J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which STEVENS, KENNEDY, BREYER, and SOTOMAYOR, JJ., joined.

ALITO, J., filed a dissenting opinion, in which ROBERTS, C. J., and SCALIA and THOMAS, JJ., joined.

Kennedy: The supposed conservative who is why we still have legalized infanticide and now apparently sanctions against the first amendment free exercise of religion.

Opinion link: http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/09pdf/08-1371.pdf

47 posted on 06/28/2010 9:07:10 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: PetroniusMaximus

How does that change the law?


48 posted on 06/28/2010 9:08:00 AM PDT by donna (Inflation is coming! You haven't really suffered until you've suffered inflation.)
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To: OldDeckHand

In Alito’s dissent: “The proudest boast of our free speech jurisprudence is that we protect the freedom to express ‘the thought that we hate.’” United States v. Schwimmer, 279 U. S. 644, 654–655 (1929)


49 posted on 06/28/2010 9:12:04 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: JerseyHighlander
This ruling can be used to defund the radical Muslim Student Associations across the United States.

Certainly at this university, if the Muslim association refuses to admit non-Muslims.

50 posted on 06/28/2010 9:13:32 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Steelfish
Court: Christian group can't bar gays, get funding (Christian Legal Society v. Martinez)

So does this mean that gay groups can't refuse to hire Christians who aren't gay and continue to get funding?
51 posted on 06/28/2010 9:15:37 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Blackyce

Yes, and although it’s not quite the same, it reminds me of how those who educate their kids in private and home schools have to pay for government schools in addition.


52 posted on 06/28/2010 9:15:46 AM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: JerseyHighlander
>> Two edged sword.

Exactly.

Group exclusivity is a touchy subject and despite my suspicions of Left-based, Gay aggression against Christians, I'm equally suspicious of fed/state rulings and enforcement that involve exclusions of participation of one group with another:

Sharia law takes over in Dearborn, MI as Christians lose their First Amendment rights (VIDEO)
53 posted on 06/28/2010 9:21:35 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Clemenza
"The Catholic Church should note this as they push for "vouchers" to keep their schools from closing. Either self-fund, or fold. "

I think the bright distinction with vouchers is that they are given to individuals, not groups. For example, many Americans qualify for the GI Bill. If you qualify for the GI Bill, you may use those funds at (most) any accredited US university, to include many religiously affiliated universities. Also, you may use those funds to earn an undergraduate degree in divinity. So far, the Court has not found an constitutional infirmity with that process.

So, while the Catholic schools may benefit from students redeeming their vouchers at their school, it's unlikely that will undermine the Church's ability to control their religious teachings at those same schools - so far.

54 posted on 06/28/2010 9:22:23 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: PetroniusMaximus

“Folks, here’s how it is... we need to start flooding these opposing groups with Christians.”

And then sue them when they deny access based on religion.


55 posted on 06/28/2010 9:32:11 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Political correctness in America today is a Rip Van Winkle acid trip.)
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To: OldDeckHand

So this will include say, The Muslim Student Association, from obtaining funding?


56 posted on 06/28/2010 9:37:43 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: All

Did the supreme court just made deviant behavior MANDATORY?


57 posted on 06/28/2010 9:39:25 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: OldDeckHand

Unfortunately it’s always them contaminating us. They are attracted to us because they know they are safe. For us, we have to lower ourselves to have to deal with them and most won’t do that.


58 posted on 06/28/2010 9:40:22 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: OldDeckHand

So, why are these organizations continuing as 501(c)(3) in the first place?

How much of our souls are we going to sell for the sake of this tax exempt status?


59 posted on 06/28/2010 9:43:29 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (How many children are enough? One more....)
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To: OldDeckHand
I haven't read the decision in it's entirety yet (I'm barely a 1/4 of the way through MacDonald), but I'm interested especially in Alito's lengthy dissent. I'm worried what this might do to the Boy Scouts of America, who receive no public funding but are allowed to use public property.

Yes, that is the crux of the matter.

60 posted on 06/28/2010 9:43:41 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Obama suffers from decision-deficit disorder." Oliver North 6/25/10)
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