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Spec Ops Command Cancels New Rifle
Military.com ^ | 6/25/2010 | Christian Lowe

Posted on 06/25/2010 4:39:42 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld

In a surprising reversal that follows years of effort to design a one-of-a-kind commando rifle, the U.S. military's Special Operations Command has abruptly decided to abandon the new SOCOM Combat Assault rifle – the "SCAR," as the rifle is commonly known – in favor of previously-fielded carbines.

Details provided exclusively to Military.com reveal that SOCOM, the Tampa-based command that oversees the training and equipping of SEALs, Green Berets, Air Force Special Tactics Teams and Marine SOC groups, will stop purchasing the 5.56 mm Mk-16 Special Operations Forces Combat Assault Rifle and might require all units who now have them to turn the new weapons back into the armory. The Mk-16 does not provide enough of a performance advantage over the M-4 to justify spending USSOCOM's limited … funds when competing priorities are taken into consideration," officials at USSOCOM said in an email response to questions from Military.com. "Currently, three of USSOCOM's four components receive the 5.56 mm M-4 from their parent service as a service common equipment item." (Naval Special Warfare Command is the only component that does not purchase its weapons with Navy funds.)

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1 posted on 06/25/2010 4:39:45 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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2 posted on 06/25/2010 4:46:48 PM PDT by Errant
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To: sonofstrangelove

“Not enough of an advantage”....Yeh...let’s give the bad guy the upper hand...


3 posted on 06/25/2010 4:50:01 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: Errant

No new bombers, no new rifles, no more F22’s - yep
I could be wrong, but it seems to me that Treason Is the Season in Washington DC


4 posted on 06/25/2010 4:50:18 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: sonofstrangelove

So we are canceling the next gen bomber, this rifle, the next gen nuclear missile, future space exploration, etc. etc. Clearly Obama thinks we need a weaker military to we don’t “antagonize” folks like the Iranians, the Chinese, and the Russians.

Weakness breeds wars!


5 posted on 06/25/2010 4:50:25 PM PDT by Laserman
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To: J Edgar

I think you’re right...


6 posted on 06/25/2010 4:52:42 PM PDT by Errant
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To: sonofstrangelove

I have shot the SCAR Heavy in 7.62 and I can say it is a pretty nice rifle. I haven’t shot a 7.62 AR for comparison, but the SCAR is way better than an M-14 in the Sage stock. It is a lot lighter and easier to mount optics, etc.


7 posted on 06/25/2010 4:54:48 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Laserman
""It is a vital national security interest of the United States to reduce these conflicts because whether we like it or not, we remain a dominant military superpower, and when conflicts break out, one way or another we get pulled into them," Obama said."
8 posted on 06/25/2010 4:56:14 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
What America REALLY needs to cancel is a CIC unwilling to fulfill his primary Constitutional duty to provide for the common defense!
9 posted on 06/25/2010 4:57:41 PM PDT by G Larry (Democrats: expediting the Destruction of America, before they lose power...)
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To: sonofstrangelove

We’re broke and the budget’s being cut. Willful attrition sounds like treason (on the part of the CINC).


10 posted on 06/25/2010 5:00:53 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: sonofstrangelove

At least it’s only the 5.56 version that’s being cancelled.

They still have the 7.62 version.


11 posted on 06/25/2010 5:01:23 PM PDT by re_tail20
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To: USNBandit

I have a AR-10. I love it but I thin the SCAR is probably a lot better gun. The AR-10 still has some of the fundamental AR problems while the SCAR does not. The SCAR is one ugly looking gun, however. SCAR was probably at least runner up in “ugliest full size rifle” contest.


12 posted on 06/25/2010 5:07:08 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: re_tail20

Maybe piston operation does not have the advantages over direct gas impingement that is claimed in gun mags or by FN salesmen...

C.W.


13 posted on 06/25/2010 5:09:46 PM PDT by colderwater
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To: sonofstrangelove

SOCOM made the right decision


14 posted on 06/25/2010 5:09:56 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Why the surprise?

Mr President you said; “judge me by the people I surround myself with and you will see the truth of my vision for America...”

Please explain why you have associated yourself with the “short list” of people listed below and why you haven’t publicly denounced their support for ideologies such as Marxism, Socialism, Communism and Maoist “philosophy”...

Frank Marshall Davis
Bill Ayers
Reverend Wright
Anita Dunn
Van Jones
Eric Holder
Ron Bloom
John Holdren
Mark Lloyd
Andy Stern
Craig Becker
Rosa Brooks
Cass Sunstein
Kevin Jennings
Vivek Kundra
Adolfo Carrion
Nancy Killefer

Given that this is a very short list of the many professed Marxist, Socialist and Communist members of your cabinet will you seek to purge similar individuals from current appointed offices?

Also can you fully explain why you have taken the side of the impeached president of Honduras and haven’t excoriated members of your cabinet and members of the US House of Representatives at large for supporting the likes of Hugo Chavez...?

Obama Espoused Radical Views in College [advocated communist revolution!]

Steve Malzberg - WOR News Talk Radio 710 ^ | February 12, 2010 | Ronald Kessler

Posted on February 12, 2010 7:33:56 PM GMT+09:00 by ETL
Dr. John C. Drew, a grant writing consultant in Laguna Niguel, Calif., tells Newsmax he met Obama in 1980 when Obama was a sophomore at Occidental College in Los Angeles. Drew had just graduated from Occidental and was attending graduate school at Cornell University.

During Christmas break, Drew says he was at Grauman-Boss’ home in Palo Alto when Obama came over with Mohammed Hasan Chandoo, his roommate from Pakistan.

“Barack [Obama] and Hasan showed up at the house in a BMW, and then we went to a restaurant together,” Drew says. “We had a nice meal, and then we came back to the house and smoked cigarettes and drank and argued politics.”

For the next several hours, they discussed Marxism.

“He [Obama] was arguing a straightforward Marxist-Leninist class-struggle point of view, which anticipated that there would be a revolution of the working class, led by revolutionaries, who would overthrow the capitalist system and institute a new socialist government that would redistribute the wealth,” says Drew, who says he himself was then a Marxist.

“The idea was basically that wealthy people were exploiting others,” Drew says. “That this was the secret of their wealth, that they weren’t paying others enough for their work, and they were using and taking advantage of other people. He was convinced that a revolution would take place, and it would be a good thing.”

Drew concluded that Obama thought of himself as “part of an intelligent, radical vanguard that was leading the way towards this revolution and towards this new society.” ...”

Referring to Obama’s quote from “Dreams of My Father” that he associated with Marxist professors, Drew says, “What he’s not saying is that he was in 100 percent total agreement with those Marxist professors. When you understand that, Obama’s later associations and policies make more sense, including why he was taken in by Rev. Wright’s ideology.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2450298/posts


15 posted on 06/25/2010 5:15:17 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Perhaps. I wonder, though, what will become of the new ammo that was optimized for the SCAR (Mk318?)? IIRC, Spec Ops Command ordered a bunch of it/


16 posted on 06/25/2010 5:18:58 PM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: sonofstrangelove

The lawlessness of this administration is mind boggling. We MUST take our country back and reestablish the rule of law under the US Constitution. Prosecution of law breakers, tax evaders, traitors and their ilk is a must, our nation can’t survive until this starts to happen. I know folks are squeamish but time for nice-nice is over.


17 posted on 06/25/2010 5:25:27 PM PDT by brushcop (CW4 Matthew Lourey CW2 Joshua Scott/ Kiowa pilots KIA Iraq '05. Thank you for our son's life.)
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To: USNBandit
Here's todays version of the M14. Being used today in Afghanistan.
18 posted on 06/25/2010 5:32:16 PM PDT by Recon Dad ( Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Can hardly wait for the Youtube “Hitler gets pi**ed” because the SCAR is cancelled. The one about the price was priceless. No pun intended. :)


19 posted on 06/25/2010 5:47:18 PM PDT by rickomatic
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“... SCAR is way better than an M-14 in the Sage stock.”

From my cold dead hands will you have my M-14/M1A!


20 posted on 06/25/2010 7:01:19 PM PDT by CapnJack
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