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Many legislators aim to copy Ariz. immigration law (18 states legislators chompin' at the bit)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 6/25/10 | John Miller - ap

Posted on 06/25/2010 2:58:40 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

BOISE, Idaho – Arizona's sweeping new immigration law doesn't even take effect until next month, but lawmakers in nearly 20 other states are already clamoring to follow in its footsteps.

Gubernatorial candidates in Florida and Minnesota are singing the law's praises, as are some lawmakers in other states far from the Mexico border such as Idaho and Nebraska. But states also are watching legal challenges to the new law, and whether boycotts over it will harm Arizona's economy.

The law, set to take effect July 29, requires police to check the immigration status of anyone they think is in the country illegally. Violators face up to six months in jail and $2,500 in fines.

Lawmakers or candidates in as many as 18 states say they want to push similar measures when their legislative sessions start up again in 2011. Arizona-style legislation may have the best chance of passing in Oklahoma, which in 2007 gave police more power to check the immigration status of people they arrest.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; aliens; arizona; illegalimmigrants; immigration; legislators; statesrights
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1 posted on 06/25/2010 2:58:42 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

God Bless America!


2 posted on 06/25/2010 2:59:58 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: NormsRevenge

They should all do what AZ did and pass a bill anyway. F the Fed...let them try to sue all 18 states.

Pffft


3 posted on 06/25/2010 3:00:24 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (I'll just say the 2nd amendment to the Constitution is there for a reason!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Great! Let’s see Obama push his vote-generating amnesty against this many states with anti-illegal laws.


4 posted on 06/25/2010 3:01:54 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: NormsRevenge
"The law, set to take effect July 29, requires police to check the immigration status of anyone they think is in the country illegally. Violators face up to six months in jail and $2,500 in fines."

The scum sucking press thinks it's true that if you repeat a lie often enough, it will be believed...

5 posted on 06/25/2010 3:03:53 PM PDT by jessduntno ( "The planet has a fever, and it's in Al Gore's pants." - Howie Carr)
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To: chicagolady

I’D LOVE TO SEE THE PARADE OF STOLEN CARS AND LOOT MAKING THEIR WAY DOWN I-35 and I-5 AND THEN WE JUST SHUT THE DOOR AND LET THEM HAVE THEIR FREE AMERICAN MONEY TO SPEND IN THEIR DUMP OF A COUNTRY!!!

YIPEEE! GOOD BYE LULAC!!!!!!!!!

If the media would tell the truth, the American hispanics would be much more well off if these parasites would just go home.

Time for happy hour.....


6 posted on 06/25/2010 3:09:39 PM PDT by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: NormsRevenge

They need to get to it.

Swamp those whores’ sons apparachiki in DC.

Bury them in non-violent defiance and obstacles.


7 posted on 06/25/2010 3:09:46 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Let me be clear. The voluntary pancipation of Cinco de Quatro is mandated in all 57 states.)
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To: NormsRevenge

What are the leftist going to do ? boycott 18 states ?


8 posted on 06/25/2010 3:18:17 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: NormsRevenge
Don't count on Rick (Gov. Good Hair) Perry of Texas.

Shhhhhh, don't say it too loud, he’z running to keep his seat and once he defeats Bill White for the governors seat, he will be throwing his hat in 2012.

Needing the hispanic vote you see. Apparently politics are more important than the country.

Debbie Riddle of Tomball (State Rep.) will be introducing a bill in the next leg. session. Way to go Debbie.

9 posted on 06/25/2010 3:18:17 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: NormsRevenge

Interesting. An article in the AJC noted that GA actually has more illegals than Arizona.


10 posted on 06/25/2010 3:26:07 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: NormsRevenge

They’re finally coming to their senses.


11 posted on 06/25/2010 3:38:21 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Don’t waste time. Getter done and fast. Illegals are already on the run.....keep them runnin.


12 posted on 06/25/2010 3:46:39 PM PDT by RC2
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To: NormsRevenge

This is a sad example of mass confusion which is being unleashed upon the U.S. by the anti-American front groups; especially the current CPUSA regime in the White House.

Although, I believe that this law should be in all states and that each foreign anchor baby be qualified through their parents’ citizenship. The problem is, as a side show, the current regime can play this off, forcing all states into this type of legislation, while leaving California open, for all the Mexican invading groups and other illegals’ to escape for safe haven displacing local populace. And as a stretch, the smiley face of Obama and Congress can bestow upon these illegal’s citizenship and residence, enlisting them plus liberal racists/extremists and separatists as part of his National Civilian Security Force. And what will be come of each state’s National Guard, since they do not use them currently for their stated purpose…


13 posted on 06/25/2010 4:02:45 PM PDT by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Someone needs to let Peggy West know her vacation options are dwindling....


14 posted on 06/25/2010 4:10:57 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Just say NOPE to the DOPE with the HOPE)
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To: NormsRevenge

And still the Democrats don’t get it. They will after November’s election.


15 posted on 06/25/2010 4:24:07 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


16 posted on 06/25/2010 4:37:40 PM PDT by HiJinx ("Looks like we're a'gonna have to read to 'em from the Good Book, Pa.")
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To: jessduntno

Reality vs. Myth: SB1070

Make it illegal in the State of Arizona for an alien to not register with the government, thus being an “illegal alien” (already the case at the federal level: 8 USC 1306a; USC 1304e)

Allow police to detain people where there is a “reasonable suspicion” that they’re illegal aliens (see the recent court case Estrada v. Rhode Island for an idea of what “reasonable suspicion” might entail)

Prohibits sanctuary cities (already prohibited at the federal level, 8 USC 1373) and allows citizens to sue any such jurisdiction

Reality vs. Myth: SB1070

Myth No. 1: The law requires aliens to carry identification that they weren’t already required to carry.

Reality: It has been a federal crime (8 United States Code Section 1304(a) or 1306(e)) since 1940 for aliens to fail to carry their registration documents. The Arizona law reaffirms the federal law. Anyone who has traveled abroad knows that other nations have similar requirements. The majority requests for documentation will take place during the course of other police business such as traffic stops. Because Arizona allows only lawful residents to obtain licenses, an officer must presume that someone who produces one is legally in the country. (See News Hour clip 3:45 seconds in)

Myth No. 2: The law will encourage racial profiling.

Reality: The Arizona law reduces the chances of racial profiling by requiring officers to contact the federal government when they suspect a person is an illegal alien as opposed to letting them make arrests on their own assessment as federal law currently allows. Section 2 was amended (by HB2162) to read that a law enforcement official “may not consider race, color, or national origin” in making any stops or determining an alien’s immigration status (previously, they were prohibited in “solely” considering those factors). In addition, all of the normal Fourth Amendment protections against racial profiling still apply.

Myth No. 3: “Reasonable suspicion” is a meaningless term that will permit police misconduct.

Reality: “Reasonable suspicion” has been defined by the courts for decades (the Fourth Amendment itself proscribes “unreasonable searches and seizures”). One of the most recent cases, Estrada v. Rhode Island, provides an example of the courts refining of “reasonable suspicion:”

A 15 passenger van is pulled over for a traffic violation. The driver of the van had identification but the other passengers did not (some had IDs from a gym membership, a non-driver’s license card from the state, and IDs issued from the Guatemalan Consulate). The passengers said they were on their way to work but they had no work permits. Most could not speak English but upon questioning, admitted that they were in the United States illegally. The officer notified ICE and waited three minutes for instructions.

The SB1070 provision in question reads:
“For any lawful contact made by a law enforcement official or agency of this state . . . where reasonable suspicion exists that the person is an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States, a reasonable attempt shall be made, when practicable, to determine the immigration status of the person.”

Myth No. 4: The law will require Arizona police officers to stop and question people.

Reality: The law only kicks in when a police officer stopped, detained, or arrested someone (HB2162). The most likely contact is during the issuance of a speeding ticket. The law does not require the officer to begin questioning a person about his immigration status or to do anything the officer would not otherwise do.

Only after a stop is made, and subsequently the officer develops reasonable suspicion on his own that an immigration law has been violated, is any obligation imposed. At that point, the officer is required to call ICE to confirm whether the person is an illegal alien.

The Arizona law is actually more restrictive than federal law. In Muehler v. Mena (2005), the Supreme Court ruled that officers did not need reasonable suspicion to justify asking a suspect about their immigration status, stating that the court has “held repeatedly that mere police questioning does not constitute a seizure” under the Fourth Amendment). Source = http://www.numbersusa.com/dfax?jid=475466&lid=9&rid=123&series=tp06MAY10&tid=999725


17 posted on 06/25/2010 6:53:48 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: NormsRevenge; 17th Miss Regt; 2001convSVT; 2ndDivisionVet; A_Former_Democrat; ...
I've been watching for some movement from other States joining Arizona in their fight against illegals and the federales(on BOTH sides of the border). This article is as near as I've come to finding something resembling a compilation of activity. Not much concrete happening but it should give us an indication by year's end just how much traction these initiatives will get. As with other "pure" 10th Amendment initiatives, we can give our State legislators additional support to battle our clueless feral government.

More States moving to strengthen enforcement against illegal immigration.!





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18 posted on 06/25/2010 10:10:41 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have just two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: chicagolady

I keep hearing the libtards claim that its the feds job to make immigration laws. Really? They are oh so silent on municipalities making sanctuary cities.

A state that makes laws to uphold federal law is more in violation than a city that makes a law, directly confrontational to federal law?

If this goes to the supreme court, I hope the justices tell the feds that in fact, they are correct, it IS a federal law, and if the Obozo intends to cut of fed funding for states that impose their own structure of fed law (like they did with the drinking age), that the self proclaimed “sanctuary cities” must also forfeit all federal funds. After all, its the feds job.

But, truth be told, this will never see a courtroom before the elections, and probably not even see a courtroom before Obozo is up for re-election. They’ll stick a finger to the wind at that point, and see how many illegals they can count on through motor-voter and other unscrupulous methods, compared to how many real citizens are expected to turn out at the polling places.

Reeks of Chicago, I know, I live in Chicago.


19 posted on 06/26/2010 12:44:13 AM PDT by esoxmagnum
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To: NormsRevenge

“The issue just gets more convoluted,” Olmstead said. “It sends a message that the Latino and Hispanic population isn’t wanted.”

NOT TRUE, NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU SAY IT.

The message is ILLEGALS aren’t wanted. Friday afternoon, two guys are discussing the new ICE guy(who won’t enforce the law). The pro-amnesty guy was arguing that people who oppose the appointee have a political agenda(!) and resources shouldn’t be wasted on tracking illegals.

Sure, why not? Stop wasting time and money; use it for more important things like free donuts and writing speeding tickets./s


20 posted on 06/26/2010 12:54:57 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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