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No Foetal Pain Before 24 Weeks
BBC Online ^ | 6/24/10 | Branwen Jeffreys

Posted on 06/24/2010 6:50:14 PM PDT by originalbuckeye

Abortions are permitted after 24 weeks on medical grounds There is no new evidence to show foetuses feel pain in the womb before 24 weeks, and so no reason to challenge the abortion limit, doctors say. The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists' review said foetuses are "undeveloped and sedated". Brain connections are not fully formed, and the environment of the womb creates a state of induced sleep, like unconsciousness, they add. Anti-abortion campaigners are likely to challenge the reports. The issue of whether a foetus of 24 weeks or below can feel pain had been raised in the debate over whether the current time limit for abortion should be reduced. An up-to-date analysis of evidence was recommended by MPs in a report from the Commons Science and Technology committee during the last parliament. They looked at the 1967 Abortion Act, which covers all parts of the UK apart from Northern Ireland. Abortion grounds The Royal College's reviews of existing evidence examined whether or not a foetus can experience pain. It also tried to define what mental and physical abnormalities could result in a "serious handicap". Around 1% of abortions are carried out on these grounds. Such terminations can take place after 24 weeks. In the past, campaigners concerned about the abortion law have argued that this has been interpreted too widely to include relatively minor disabilities. But the Royal College said in its second report that it would not be practical to try to produce a list of conditions that would constitute serious handicap because it was too difficult to predict the long-term impact of an abnormality on a child or on their family. Supporters of the current abortion law have welcomed this report, arguing that even within one condition there may be a wide range of severity.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: abortion; healthcare; moralabsolutes; prolife
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To: originalbuckeye

These bastards don’t get it.

It has nothing to do with the pain or lack thereof that is felt while ending a life.

It is about ending a life.

Good Lord please have mercy on us all.


21 posted on 06/24/2010 7:08:34 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: originalbuckeye
"YOU LIE!!!"
22 posted on 06/24/2010 7:10:50 PM PDT by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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To: originalbuckeye

I had an early amnio at 13 weeks. An ultrasound monitor was used to guide the technician, because they had to be sure the needle didn’t hurt the baby. My husband and I watched the monitor as the needle was inserted. As soon as the needle entered the amniotic sac, our son sensed the intrusion and reached his little hand up to investigate. The technician remained as though frozen in place for fear that the needle would hurt his tiny little developing hand. After a few moments he removed his hand and went back to sucking his thumb. Any doubts I still may have had about the sanctity of life vanished at that moment.


23 posted on 06/24/2010 7:13:56 PM PDT by Think free or die
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To: originalbuckeye

So does that mean we can outlaw abortions after the 24th week in the US?


24 posted on 06/24/2010 7:17:38 PM PDT by earlJam
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To: originalbuckeye
Interesting perspective.

But before these eminent health professionals pronounce so magisterially on the issue, perhaps they should agree to take some Ambien and be placed, unconscious and naked, into a water-filled sensory deprivation chamber.

Then, after a bit, the water could be charged full of metallic salts and these experts could be mildly curetted with some infrequently-cleaned steel blades.

After that certain-to-be-painless research, they could feel much more empirically comfortable with their conclusions.

25 posted on 06/24/2010 7:21:28 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: originalbuckeye

And they know this HOW?????

Not one of the “experts” have had to go through the pain
of death before birth!

Yes...God help us with these murdering thugs in office!


26 posted on 06/24/2010 7:21:37 PM PDT by luvie (DIMs?......start packin'--you're fired!....I can see November from my house!)
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To: originalbuckeye

>> Article: no new evidence to show foetuses feel pain in the womb before 24 weeks, and so no reason to challenge the abortion limit, ...

Empty arguments for empty souls.

I wonder if the contempt I have for abortion advocates is lesser or greater than the contempt they have for the unborn.


27 posted on 06/24/2010 7:23:26 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: originalbuckeye

I really doubt this


28 posted on 06/24/2010 7:24:08 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Yep...the left always de-humanizes their targets. Just ask my grandfather...no wait...you can’t: the Nazis killed him.


29 posted on 06/24/2010 7:29:01 PM PDT by Pharmboy (The Stone Age did not end because they ran out of stones...)
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To: surroundedbyblue

If they are comparing the feotus with an unconscious person, surely they must concede that the two ought to be put on the same medical footing. The growth of the feotus is a kind of slow awakening. Long before that time, the feotus acts reflexively to stimuli.


30 posted on 06/24/2010 7:30:08 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

If they are comparing the feotus with an unconscious person, surely they must concede that the two ought to be put on the same medical footing. The growth of the feotus is a kind of slow awakening. Long before that time, the feotus acts reflexively to stimuli.


31 posted on 06/24/2010 7:30:19 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: originalbuckeye

I have yet to see a murder defendant argue for his innocence on the grounds that his victim felt no pain.


32 posted on 06/24/2010 7:32:57 PM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: crescen7

>Interesting logic.
>
>Next time I want to kill someone - I’ll have to make sure they’re asleep.

Unless you can do it instantly you need some way to make sure there’s no pain... such as decapitation.


33 posted on 06/24/2010 7:33:18 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: originalbuckeye

So as long as someone feels no pain...its ok to kill them.


34 posted on 06/24/2010 7:33:50 PM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: crescen7

Exactly.

“No, officer, it’s OK—I blew the guy’s head off with a shotgun whilst he was sleepin’—I swear, he never felt a t’ing. Nuttin’ ta see here, move on, folks.”


35 posted on 06/24/2010 7:34:11 PM PDT by Humble Servant ( See y'all in the gulag.)
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To: originalbuckeye

Placemark for later pingout.


36 posted on 06/24/2010 7:35:24 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Nik Naym

They do not value innocent life, only the lives of criminals.


37 posted on 06/24/2010 7:36:21 PM PDT by Humble Servant ( See y'all in the gulag.)
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To: originalbuckeye
“no new evidence to show foetuses feel pain in the womb before 24 weeks”

Sounds like some careful parsing of words to me with emphasis on the word “new”. Never mind that there is old evidence. Dr. Bernard Nathanson, former abortionist and founder of NARAL, found evidence of the unborn feeling pain and demonstrated it in his film, The Silent Scream.

38 posted on 06/24/2010 7:36:48 PM PDT by Nevadan
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To: originalbuckeye

Right. A tranquilizer dart first. Break the skull second. No murder involved.


39 posted on 06/24/2010 7:37:57 PM PDT by Rippin
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To: originalbuckeye

Right. A tranquilizer dart first. Break the skull second. No murder involved.


40 posted on 06/24/2010 7:38:05 PM PDT by Rippin
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