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'You sit and ask yourself: What are we doing here?' [Did McChrystal self-destruct?]
NRO Corner | 6/25/09 | Andy McCArthy

Posted on 06/24/2010 11:18:17 AM PDT by cornelis

'You sit and ask yourself: What are we doing here?' [Andy McCarthy]

Why would General Stanley McChrystal give that kind of access to a lefty rock-n-roll magazine? Maybe because he's a kindred spirit who felt the need to assure Rolling Stone's Michael Hastings that he voted for Obama — even against McCain, a military legend who shares McChrystal's transnational progressive outlook.

"Now it can be told," elaborates Marc Ambinder at the Atlantic "The story about [McChrystal] voting for Obama is not contrived. He is a political liberal. He is a social liberal. He banned Fox News from the television sets in his headquarters. Yes, really."

Yes, really. The revealing Rolling Stone profile also tells us that the general "banned alcohol on base [and] kicked out Burger King and other symbols of American excess." (Recall the very similar Obama edict that American forces not fly the Stars and Stripes at their base during their humanitarian mission in Haiti — a self-loathing trend that has also taken hold on college campuses.) Even McChrystal's undoing here — ironically, by Rolling Stone, not Fox News — is, as VDH suggested yesterday, attributable to a disturbing contempt for authority and decorum that McChrystal and his top aides made little effort to conceal from Hastings. (Byron has more on that, here.)

I got in some hot water here last year for arguing that Gen. McChrystal, for all his undeniable valor, is a progressive big-thinker who has been conducting a sociology experiment in Islamic nation-building. It's a flawed experiment that assumes Afghan Muslims will side with us — i.e., the Westerners their clerical authorities tell them are infidel invaders and occupiers — against their fellow Afghan Muslims.

Nothing in the ensuing months changes my mind. To the contrary, what I've seen lately indicates that, while our troops are imperiled under strait-jacketing rules of engagement imposed by Gen. McChrystal to avoid offending Afghans, Christian missionaries have been suspended for preaching (proselytism for any belief-system other than Islam is illegal in Afghanistan). I've seen Asia News's report that Afghan converts to Christianity have been sentenced to death for apostasy. All this, moreover, is happening under the new constitution we helped write, which (as the State Department bragged in 2004) enshrines sharia as Afghanistan's fundamental law. That is, the Afghan Muslim population our troops are fighting and dying to protect has institutionalized the persecution of other populations (when the said Muslims are not otherwise busy killing each other).

In the Examiner, Byron points to Rolling Stone's account of a frustrated American soldier, lamenting the death of a fellow soldier killed because of the rules of engagement. "You sit and ask yourself," says the soldier, "What are we doing here?" I don't know, but whatever it is, it is not what Americans thought they were sending our military to Afghanistan to do.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: leftist; liberal; mcchrystal; multiculturalism
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A very plausible theory.
1 posted on 06/24/2010 11:18:20 AM PDT by cornelis
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To: cornelis

glad he is gone.


2 posted on 06/24/2010 11:21:31 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: cornelis

Letting the days go by...


3 posted on 06/24/2010 11:22:43 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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To: cornelis

With the rules of engagement we have in Afghanistan, not to mention the exit date set, we are in effect sending our troops over there in handcuffs since it takes practically a Papal Dispensation to receive permission to draw your gun.


4 posted on 06/24/2010 11:23:07 AM PDT by Gen. Burkhalter
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To: cornelis

Can we have Talking Heads playing in the background? Once in a Lifetime.


5 posted on 06/24/2010 11:23:11 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The real death threat is their legislation" Rush Limbaugh, 3/25/10)
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To: cornelis

“Did McChrystal self-destruct?”

Ask yourself this question: do the military trust this administration?

What do you think the 90% of Americans who are not the Freeper type would say?


6 posted on 06/24/2010 11:27:24 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: cornelis

No link to article? I cannot find it.


7 posted on 06/24/2010 11:28:11 AM PDT by celmak
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http://corner.nationalreview.com/ You have to scroll waaaay down. Worth it, though, since all the reference links in the piece are active.
8 posted on 06/24/2010 11:29:52 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The real death threat is their legislation" Rush Limbaugh, 3/25/10)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Maybe I’m reading into what McCarthy is saying, but it seems to suggest that he can’t fight this war, even if he were President. In other words, the general and the commander in chief are birds of a feather.


9 posted on 06/24/2010 11:30:01 AM PDT by cornelis
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Found it!

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NDg0NTNiYjFlNzJhOTNiMTdhYzhmZGJiNWQxZTA2Mjk=


10 posted on 06/24/2010 11:30:38 AM PDT by celmak
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To: celmak

Thanks, I posted in a hurry.


11 posted on 06/24/2010 11:32:50 AM PDT by cornelis
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His business is killing bad guys and breaking their stuff. If business ain’t good, he needs to go, or we need to move to where the bad guys are.


12 posted on 06/24/2010 11:32:58 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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Here's a direct link to the post...in case you don't like scrolling: http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NDg0NTNiYjFlNzJhOTNiMTdhYzhmZGJiNWQxZTA2Mjk=
13 posted on 06/24/2010 11:33:07 AM PDT by 10Ring
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To: cornelis

This was a carefully weighed decision by McCrystal you can bet on that. You don;t get 4 stars by acting self destructive. Oil-Bama likes distraction as a political ploy.


14 posted on 06/24/2010 11:33:17 AM PDT by swamprebel ("gather your armies.")
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A very plausible theory.

This entire drama - McChrstal, Obamao, Afghanistan etc. - is just heart-breaking on so many levels. Our poor soldiers.

It's becoming a poorly run clownshow, with the stakes being life-and-death and the future of nations.

I can't stand it.

15 posted on 06/24/2010 11:34:04 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: cornelis

bookmark.


16 posted on 06/24/2010 11:34:29 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: cornelis

17 posted on 06/24/2010 11:35:27 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: AAABEST
I can't stand it. Need to understand it.
18 posted on 06/24/2010 11:38:17 AM PDT by cornelis
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You would also ask yourself.

Q. Why would McChrystal and all the VERY experienced staff sit around and diss the President and the whole civilian establishment with a reporter present to take it all down?

A. Because being replaced was the outcome intended. He knew he would be replaced by Petraeus. The military has succeeded in boxing in Obama. The reputation of Patraeus’ success in adding more troops will not be overcome by Obama. No longer will there be a troop withdrawal next year. There will be even more troops and a long, long term presence. For better or for worse, McChrystal took the spear. This war is being run by the Military. Nothing else makes sense.


19 posted on 06/24/2010 11:40:24 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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A calculated move, like a defection? That would only be plausible if McChrystal actually sloughed off his failed ideology.

To be continued . . .
20 posted on 06/24/2010 11:49:34 AM PDT by cornelis
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