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Napolitano said it is wrong to believe that if security is embraced, liberty is sacrificed.

She added, "We can significantly advance security without having a deleterious impact on individual rights in most instances. At the same time, there are situations where trade-offs are inevitable."

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BS!

From the very founding of the nation it was understood:

Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both. ~Ben Franklin

1 posted on 06/20/2010 3:06:08 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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FUJN! Plug the damn hole! Seal the damn border!


2 posted on 06/20/2010 3:07:42 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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“Big Sis” is just following orders from her Master to take down the primary means of communication for the Tea Partiers and the 9-12/Patriot groups.


3 posted on 06/20/2010 3:08:29 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (There is no "common good" which minimizes or sacrifices the individual. --Walter Scott Hudson)
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You betcha Janet, that will work!


4 posted on 06/20/2010 3:10:04 PM PDT by TheDailyChange (Politics,Conservatism,Liberalism)
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FR has been down all day. Coincidence?


5 posted on 06/20/2010 3:10:47 PM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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Fighting homegrown terrorism by monitoring Internet communications

So monitor it. Internet traffic is open-protocol.

But what you are REALLY talking about is SHUTTING IT DOWN TO DISSENT.

6 posted on 06/20/2010 3:11:01 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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I knew a guy, conservative as all get out, former cop, who voted for Kerry and against Bush because of the patriot act. I understand his thinking. Still couldn’t vote for Kerry but.....


9 posted on 06/20/2010 3:19:55 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I weep as America gasps for breath.)
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ARPA created the Internet to survive a nuclear attack.

It may not survive the treason and politics of the
undocumented, antiAmerican, Obama administration.


12 posted on 06/20/2010 3:23:11 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Article IV - Section 4 - The United States shall protect each of them against Invasion)
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Yup, homegrown conservatives need to be shut down. sarc


13 posted on 06/20/2010 3:23:19 PM PDT by Hattie
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Yeah, Janet, how about we monitor how close you are to any act affecting our national security, divide that number in feet by the number of stairs you can climb without having a coronary, multiply that quotient by $47, buy you a new outfit at JC Penney, and send you someplace nice where we’ll never have to hear from you again?


18 posted on 06/20/2010 3:32:25 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (The United States has become a kakistocracy. Look it up if you doubt it.)
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Internet Monitoring Needed to Fight Homegrown Terrorism

Yes...this is a big turd...much bigger than THIS....and we need Congress to give it too us to protect America from home grown terrorist like FR...and Tea Baggers....as a matter of fact we used a prototype on FR on 6-20-10 to test its viability...shut them down most of the day...

20 posted on 06/20/2010 3:34:05 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Who would trust this Administration?


23 posted on 06/20/2010 3:44:25 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Democrats = authoritarian socialists)
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And to think this ‘woman’ was a governor.

Or, maybe she, like others in the present administration, merely played one on TV.

Fortunately, we know the Left eats its own.


24 posted on 06/20/2010 3:44:25 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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Bull, and

Sh*t.

This is the final gambit in the opening moves of the fascist/democrat move to seize power in America. As civil unrest begins to pick up speed in the country this summer - mostly fomented Alinksy-style by the shock-troops of the SEIU - the Obastard Administration will throttle down on the internet and will basically only allow access to their pet lapdogs in the MSM - that is, the only news-related websites that will generally be available will be those of the MSM, all the rest having been shut down through a combination of this power, plus the newly-minted definition of "journalist" the fascists, I mean democrats, will have force-fcuked through Congress under Schumer's pretend disclosure act - and we will effectively be cut off from each other and from sources of real news (i.e., the truth), unless we work now to start establishing alternative means of communication. We will need to start equipping ourselves sooner rather than later with precisely the same techniques and resources that, for example, dissidents in China and Iran use to get information out to the rest of the world, because if we don't, we will be effectively isolated and shut down by the fascists, I mean democrats, when the real putsch comes this fall.


27 posted on 06/20/2010 3:55:24 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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Can you imagine the noise that would have been heard if Bush had proposed such an idea?? They had their panties in a wad over the Patriot Act — and that was monitoring overseas sourced telephone transmissions (as I recall).


28 posted on 06/20/2010 3:58:01 PM PDT by USNA74
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The only reason to do this is to interfere with free speech on the internet and to make an end run around the 1st amendment.


31 posted on 06/20/2010 4:02:17 PM PDT by calex59
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Hitler comes in a ugly woman’s face.


33 posted on 06/20/2010 4:08:11 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Communism has arrived in Washington)
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Let’s see. Shut down free speech, including of course, the internet, name anyone opposing Obama and pals as seditionists and homegrown terrorists. Fascism redux forced upon Americans, most of whom can’t figure out what the heck’s going on. They only know Obama didn’t fill their gas tanks and pay their mortgages, that he’s a pathological liar, that the MSM connived and colluded to get him into the WH, and up until now has worked to keep him there. They’re mad about the oil gusher in the Gulf, and with Obama talking about doubling gas prices and his hope: ‘clean energy’(which we won’t achieve until the govt. gets out of the way, thank you,) they’re beginning to loathe Obama.

November elections will be catastrophic for democrats unless McCain/Rino idiocies rule the republicans. That’s if Obama doesn’t allow some Muslim to blow up NYCity or Denver, so he can declare martial law and postpone elections ‘indefinitely’.

One more matter. If Obama and progressives/liberals achieve their dream of shutting America down, no more oil, no more street lights, air conditioning, cars, heating, etc., does he seriously think the rest of the world will follow suit? And if they did, what would happen to the Arabs’ (Saudi’s), sea of oil with no customers? What would they sell? Sand? Flying carpets? Obama is a Muslim, and he won’t be happy until America or what’s left of her is ruled by Islam. And his communist mentors don’t care how many millions of Americans have to die in the process. Literally. Reeducation camps and if you don’t convert to communism and Islam, you’re dead. They figure about 35 million will have to be ‘eliminated’, and they talk about it as if they’re swatting flies.


35 posted on 06/20/2010 4:11:13 PM PDT by hershey
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Security is not even a passing thought to her.

As Dino Media dies , so will the DNC.

They must control the sources of news or cease to exist soon.


37 posted on 06/20/2010 4:19:15 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Liberals are right. The AZ situation is like Nazi Germany. Mexico is Germany and Arizona is Poland)
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AmericanTerror

We all know who they consider the real terrorists. These communists must be stopped.

waxenterror

38 posted on 06/20/2010 4:22:12 PM PDT by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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>> Title: Napolitano: Internet Monitoring Needed to Fight Homegrown Terrorism

Like this isn’t happening already.

I gather the “need” is really the veil for political persecution of Liberty advocates.


41 posted on 06/20/2010 4:29:45 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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