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Gulf Oil Full Of Methane, Adding New Concerns
Associated Press ^ | June 18, 2010 | MATTHEW BROWN and RAMIT PLUSHNICK-MASTI

Posted on 06/18/2010 5:41:00 AM PDT by numberonepal

It is an overlooked danger in oil spill crisis: The crude gushing from the well contains vast amounts of natural gas that could pose a serious threat to the Gulf of Mexico's fragile ecosystem.

The oil emanating from the seafloor contains about 40 percent methane, compared with about 5 percent found in typical oil deposits...

(Excerpt) Read more at google.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gulf; methane; oilspill
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To: UCANSEE2; Talisker

The russians used a nuke because the drilling techniques back then could only get them “close” to the bad well - maybe 100 feet? 500 feet? They used a nuke to scramble the rocks up (I wonder if they would also turn to one big glob of hardened glass?) to block off the bad well. Turn the whole cubic half mile (or whatever) into one big mass of cement/glass.

With today’s technology we can get right next to the bad casing, and even cut into the bad casing and inject the mud and cement to block it off. Just doing what had kept the oil and gas down in the hole while they were drilling, until the BP guy told them to pump out the heavy mud with light sea water.

The russkies used a nuke because it was the best technology at the time. We have better now.


101 posted on 06/18/2010 12:06:35 PM PDT by 21twelve ( UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES MY ARSE: "..now begin the work of remaking America."-Obama, 1/20/09)
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To: Texas resident

“One of the stimulus jobs was to extend the runway to allow a 747 enough room to land and take off. It’s called pre planning.”
_______________________________________________________

Yeah, just checked it out on Google Earth. You can even see the union label stamped in the concrete at the east end...

:0)


102 posted on 06/18/2010 12:13:26 PM PDT by Mugwump
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To: deport
At this point, I just can’t see how they’re ever going to cap it.

Haven't you ever heard of PEAK oil? s/

103 posted on 06/18/2010 12:14:42 PM PDT by jslade (People that are easily offended OFFEND ME!)
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To: wideminded
I recall hearing in a high school chemistry class that as H2S gets stronger, people lose their ability to smell it. So someone exposed to an increasing concentration will often be unaware that they are about to be knocked out.

0.00047 ppm is the recognition threshold, the concentration at which 50% of humans can detect the characteristic odor of hydrogen sulfide,[12] normally described as resembling "a rotten egg".

Less than 10 ppm has an exposure limit of 8 hours per day. 10–20 ppm is the borderline concentration for eye irritation.

50–100 ppm leads to eye damage.

At 100–150 ppm the olfactory nerve is paralyzed after a few inhalations, and the sense of smell disappears, often together with awareness of danger.[13][14]

320–530 ppm leads to pulmonary edema with the possibility of death.

530–1000 ppm causes strong stimulation of the central nervous system and rapid breathing, leading to loss of breathing.

800 ppm is the lethal concentration for 50% of humans for 5 minutes exposure (LC50).

Concentrations over 1000 ppm cause immediate collapse with loss of breathing, even after inhalation of a single breath.

Nasty stuff, not to mess with, but seldom found in high enough concentrations to kill you outside of enclosed spaces, gas plants, and (sour) oil production locations. In an airspace as large as the Gulf, it is highly unlikely that there is sufficient H2S in any offshore well to present a hazard to anyone on land. The H2S if present will dissipate before the oil gets to shore.

104 posted on 06/18/2010 12:15:59 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Blueflag
What’s left needs to be cleaned up — the goo, the tar.

THere is a solution to that in the works, too. With Cap and Trade, people will hunt for tarballs to burn to keep warm this winter...

105 posted on 06/18/2010 12:17:26 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

The EPA has stated on their site that there is enough to cause eye irritation, nausea and headache along with a ‘rotten egg’ smell.

I will try to find the link on the PPM.


106 posted on 06/18/2010 3:43:40 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf aInd dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: autumnraine

There is a pipe on the New Madrid Fault?


107 posted on 06/18/2010 5:33:42 PM PDT by dusttoyou (libs are all wee wee'd up and no place to go)
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To: chaos_5
"Why not drop electrodes down into these submerged plumes and run a current though them. This would create oxygen bubbles that could be absorbed back into the water and replenish the depleted supply..."

Sorry, but in salt water, it doesn't work that way. Instead of oxygen, you get chlorine.

108 posted on 06/18/2010 6:37:55 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Smokin' Joe
"Of course! Haven't you heard of the "oilcano"? Stay tuned as the intellectually (not to mention scientifically) challenged seek even greater superlatives of disaster! (and pass the popcorn)..."

You're joking of course, but google up "asphalt volcano". You're in for a surprise!!!

109 posted on 06/18/2010 6:46:10 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

And I had heard how release of mass amounts of methane creates dead zones, and how the hydrogen sulfides contained within could lead to explosions and extinctions if it is released near a fault line, or something like that. Looking at asphalt volcanoes found, it looks like nature is either a complete idiot or slitting its wrists, figuratively spaking.


110 posted on 06/18/2010 7:09:26 PM PDT by emax
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To: autumnraine
The EPA has stated on their site that there is enough to cause eye irritation, nausea and headache along with a ‘rotten egg’ smell.

I used to produce similar results with pickled eggs and draft beer...

Not belittling your concern, mind you. If it is dangerous, it is.

111 posted on 06/18/2010 7:14:03 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: numberonepal
BP drilling in the deep water because the enviro whacks don't want them near shore, or in the marsh.

Now a deep water oil well blows out and efforts to contain it are extremely difficult in these conditions, compaired to shallow water conditions.

BP starts to use dispersants to help break and dissolve some of the oil, and the enviro whacks don't want to use the dispersant because it will make sperm whales impotant.

Now an enviro whack is bichin about methane coming from the well and it's going to cause a "dead zone".

Guess that enviro whack haven't been watching the videos of the well, but that area is already dead. Every now and then, a morey eel will swim by.

112 posted on 06/18/2010 7:53:49 PM PDT by chemicalman (Barack H. Obama a.k.a. the tar baby.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Try ‘mud volcano’, too.


113 posted on 06/18/2010 8:31:03 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Calamari
Of course -- more than running thousands of cars...

BTW, your FRName reminds me of one thing I actually miss about MA -- Calamari!

One tiny restaurant we frequented frequently had calamari sauteed with Italian peppers -- served over linguini. When they had it on their "Specials of the day" board, I never bothered asking for a menu... YUM!!! "-)

114 posted on 06/18/2010 8:50:33 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: STONEWALLS

ah yes....and let the evacuations begin.../s


115 posted on 06/19/2010 12:04:42 AM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: Smokin' Joe
"Try ‘mud volcano’, too."

Cool. Makes me think that Gold was probably right.

116 posted on 06/19/2010 4:30:34 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: reagan_fanatic
Seems to me the best plan would be to drill multiple wells in the proximity of this one <<

What??....and drive the price of gas down a dollar? why would we use our own resources in our own back yard

(maybe God has a strange sense of humor....kinda saying...
“USE IT....OR LOSE IT!”

117 posted on 06/19/2010 4:56:47 AM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Blueflag

I was reading over at the oildrum, that they are flaring (burning off) 25 MILLION cubic feet of gas A DAY!

That seems incredible to me. I realize that the oil is the primary concern, but if millions of cubic feet of gas are making it to the surface, why can’t they capture that as well?


118 posted on 06/19/2010 5:30:16 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Talisker

And if you end up fracturing the seabed even more than it already is?

You’ve seen videos of underground tests out in Nevada, right? Amazing how the earth ripples out from the epicenter much the same way water does when you toss in a rock. Sure it could be possible to fuse the area near the epicenter, but what about further out from there?

I read somewhere, the they believe that the drilling mud had fracture some of the “fragile” rock. Drilling mud!


119 posted on 06/19/2010 5:40:33 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: AFreeBird
if millions of cubic feet of gas are making it to the surface, why can’t they capture that as well?

Because they'd have to compress it?

120 posted on 06/19/2010 5:41:08 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Who allowed the worst oil pollution disaster in American history and did nothing?)
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