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Gulf Oil Full Of Methane, Adding New Concerns
Associated Press ^ | June 18, 2010 | MATTHEW BROWN and RAMIT PLUSHNICK-MASTI

Posted on 06/18/2010 5:41:00 AM PDT by numberonepal

It is an overlooked danger in oil spill crisis: The crude gushing from the well contains vast amounts of natural gas that could pose a serious threat to the Gulf of Mexico's fragile ecosystem.

The oil emanating from the seafloor contains about 40 percent methane, compared with about 5 percent found in typical oil deposits...

(Excerpt) Read more at google.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gulf; methane; oilspill
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To: Blueflag

Not all the ‘dinosaurs’ were killed in one ‘extinction’ event. It was a combination of many different events, over a very, very long period of time.


81 posted on 06/18/2010 8:22:53 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: okie01

Yeppers. It’s been a while since I lived/worked down there, but I believe that if the concentration of H2S gets to 4 PPM or higher, it’s called a sour well.

And like you wrote, just cuz you can smell it does not mean you are dead. It’s not like phosgene. (if you smell cherry blossoms, you’re dead) I remember being issued respirators at some of the chemical plants along the Gulf, along with the admonition that if the alarm goes off, do not inhale, and get your mask on within 10 seconds. Yikers.


82 posted on 06/18/2010 8:25:34 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: UCANSEE2

I agree, but folks are making money (grants) trying to prove the root cause of the big kill.

Who knows, maybe they took up smoking ;-)


83 posted on 06/18/2010 8:26:59 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: numberonepal
Something’s deep beneath the earth’s crust. And it’s farting.
84 posted on 06/18/2010 8:29:16 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Blueflag
a huge volcanic eruption which showered the earth in ash, darkened the skies, polluted the air and rain (with hydrogen-sulfides of various kinds) and resulted in a uniform layer of sulfide deposits around the earth.

The amount of hydrogen sulfide which is normally emitted from a volcano is not that much. Reading about the toxic gases from a volcano, the one that is taken most seriously seems to be CO2. Not because it is more toxic than H2S, but because it is present in the volcanic gas in much larger quantities and tends to settle in low-lying areas, where living things then die, before it is dispersed.

If a volcano, or series of volcanoes, was responsible for the extinction of dinosaurs, I doubt that the hydrogen sulfide in the gas was the main factor.

There is some information about fluoride emissions from some volcanoes coating nearby vegetation, and then animals get sick and deformed. Fluoride in high concentration attacks the bones.

And it seems a stretch to use speculation about what killed the dinosaurs in order to support fear about the leak under the Gulf.

85 posted on 06/18/2010 8:34:15 AM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: okie01
But, if the concentration is high enough to smell, it's still far from deadly

I recall hearing in a high school chemistry class that as H2S gets stronger, people lose their ability to smell it. So someone exposed to an increasing concentration will often be unaware that they are about to be knocked out.

86 posted on 06/18/2010 8:34:56 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: Rocky

I agree — this is all fear mongering - to perpetuate and grow the crisis.


87 posted on 06/18/2010 8:49:03 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: wideminded

That’s true - H2S saturates the olfactory sensors and you can’t smell any ‘new’ gas.

But that’s true for a lot of smells.


88 posted on 06/18/2010 8:50:20 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: The Theophilus; STONEWALLS; dusttoyou

Not to mention the pipe is on the New Madrid fault and imagine the earthquakes a nuke could set off!


89 posted on 06/18/2010 8:50:24 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf aInd dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: reagan_fanatic
[ Seems to me the best plan would be to drill multiple wells in the proximity of this one and relieve the pressure that way. At this point, I just can’t see how they’re ever going to cap it.]

Don't cap it... drill the heck out of it and pump it dry... not two(2) relief wells but 50 relief wells.. or a hundred.. could solve Americas foreign oil problem..

90 posted on 06/18/2010 8:54:59 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Rocky

I agree, and fear can cause irrational posts. I admit to being guilty.

Of course there are a lot of Freepers who are not near this area and are acting like those of us down here are just stupid for fearing this whole mess. It’s NOT just oil. Oil is horrible for the fishing and marshes, but it’s the chemicals that we in the rainbelt of the Gulf that we fear.


91 posted on 06/18/2010 8:59:53 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf aInd dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Blueflag

Since you’re educated, look up crude assay on google. The engineering/pricing process in the petrol industry produces a distillation curve.


92 posted on 06/18/2010 9:15:50 AM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi
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To: boxerblues
RE: "This is what I love about FR...rational thinking and analysis "

Me too.. discussion without contumely is the best. A cursory search revealed none here -- so far.

93 posted on 06/18/2010 10:39:20 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Blueflag
Well, if 40% of the spill is methane, then we only have to clean up 60%. The rest will dissipate.

There, I feel better already! (don't you?)

/sarc, of course!

94 posted on 06/18/2010 11:45:28 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Did the media actually discover that there are other descriptive words than "spew" for the leak.

Of course! Haven't you heard of the "oilcano"? Stay tuned as the intellectually (not to mention scientifically) challenged seek even greater superlatives of disaster! (and pass the popcorn)...

95 posted on 06/18/2010 11:49:29 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Paradox
Good point about methane being a greenhouse gas. IIRC, it is about 20 times “worse” than CO2.. We’re cooked...

Be thankful. With cap and trade, people will be out there picking up tarballs and scooping up oil to burn for heat (off the books, of course).

96 posted on 06/18/2010 11:52:51 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: combat_boots

“Air Force One will land, take off from Port Columbus”

_________________________________________________________________

Did they extend the runway there? I had to change in Detroit for a “regional” plane when I visited in 1997 (I was born in Columbus).

Seems a 747 would have a rough time...


97 posted on 06/18/2010 11:55:55 AM PDT by Mugwump
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To: Mugwump

One of the stimulus jobs was to extend the runway to allow a 747 enough room to land and take off. It’s called pre planning.


98 posted on 06/18/2010 11:57:19 AM PDT by Texas resident (Outlaw fisherman)
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To: chessplayer
Methane is a carrier of hydrogen sulfides. Hydrogen sulfides is believed to be the cause of the dinosaur extinction as geological layering shows a layer of hydrogen sulfides at the time the dinosaurs became extinct. Scary scary stuff.”

I have worked hundreds of oil wells with plenty of methane, but no H2S. Either the Hydrogen Sulfide is present or it is not. Either it is present in sufficient concentration to be hazardous or it is not. It isn't hazardous until you get past the 10 PPM level and then only with prolonged exposure.

99 posted on 06/18/2010 12:03:59 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Actually, we don’t even need to clean up 60%.

First, the methane will dissipate.

Secondly the lighter molecular weight aromatic hydrocarbons will evaporate.

Thirdly a portion will emulsify and/or be metabolized in the sea water.

What’s left needs to be cleaned up — the goo, the tar.

IT’s a mess for sure.


100 posted on 06/18/2010 12:04:26 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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