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1 posted on 06/08/2010 10:18:44 AM PDT by K-oneTexas
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The Constitution requires that the federal government provide for the common defense:
We need to be in the Guns business.

The Constitution does not in any way indicate that the federal government should provide charity to the public:
We need to get out of the Butter business.

2 posted on 06/08/2010 10:22:46 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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False choice.

We can fund both by simply yanking out of the Defense bills all not germane items. The Defense bill should be about defense, not the dumping ground for everything senior congresscritters want funded which can not stand up to a vote on their own.

3 posted on 06/08/2010 10:23:39 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run our of other peoples money. Lady Thatcher)
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The crosshairs are moving toward the F-35 and F-22 fighters, the Marines’ amphibious Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle, unspecified hardware and, of course, the troops.


4 posted on 06/08/2010 10:26:21 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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Obama has always wanted massive across the board defense cuts. He campaigned on it during the primary campaign.


6 posted on 06/08/2010 10:29:02 AM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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If you don’t have guns, you won’t have butter very long...


7 posted on 06/08/2010 10:29:30 AM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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Neither... Food and Medical supplies/equipment.
{This is to inflict maximum casualties against the only troops that Congress can directly impact...}
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9 posted on 06/08/2010 10:31:02 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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Oh, they’ve already decided about the troops. Zero tolerance is back, and it applies to everyone, and it also applies to you if one of your troops screws up.

Gotta save money on all of those potential retirement benefits...we’ll just keep a guy for 19 years then screw him over on something that happened during his first enlistment.

And senior enlisted leadership has already bent over for it, since they’re exempt.


10 posted on 06/08/2010 10:42:42 AM PDT by Alien Gunfighter (Secular Misanthropist)
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Anti-military elements love to talk about President Eisenhower's reference to a "military industrial complex". Their inferences that he was warning against a strong defense are utter nonsense. He was talking about keeping industry's efforts from becoming self serving.

A quot from the same speech I absolutely guarantee a leftist will never bring up: "The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded. Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientifictechnological elite."

Perhaps one could call that a warning against the "Educational Industrial Complex".

Or how about this quot warning of the nanny state: "Crises there will continue to be. In meeting them, whether foreign or domestic, great or small, there is a recurring temptation to feel that some spectacular and costly action could become the miraculous solution to all current difficulties. A huge increase in newer elements of our defense; development of unrealistic programs to cure every ill in agriculture; a dramatic expansion in basic and applied research -- these and many other possibilities, each possibly promising in itself, may be suggested as the only way to the road we wish to travel."

"But each proposal must be weighed in the light of a broader consideration: the need to maintain balance in and among national programs -- balance between the private and the public economy, balance between cost and hoped for advantage -- balance between the clearly necessary and the comfortably desirable; balance between our essential requirements as a nation and the duties imposed by the nation upon the individual; balance between actions of the moment and the national welfare of the future. Good judgment seeks balance and progress; lack of it eventually finds imbalance and frustration."

http://www.h-net.org/~hst306/documents/indust.html

12 posted on 06/08/2010 11:27:20 AM PDT by Red Dog #1
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