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Al-Jazeera cameraman confirms some IDF claims of attack
Jerusalem Post ^ | June 4, 2010 | J Post Staff

Posted on 06/04/2010 1:58:48 AM PDT by Mack Truck

Andre Abu Khalil, a Lebanese cameraman for Al Jazeera TV, who was aboard the Mavi Marmara told Reuters some 20 Turkish men tried by force to prevent the boarding commandos from reaching the wheelhouse and commandeering the ship.

Using slingshots, metal pipes and wooden rods they initially succeeded in wounding and overpowering four Israeli soldiers and dragging them below decks, he told Reuters.

After a 10-minute standoff the Israelis opened fire, according to the cameraman.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: flotilla
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To: Mack Truck
...wooden rods...like wth? =.=
41 posted on 06/04/2010 10:08:45 AM PDT by cranked
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To: ConservativeMind

Do really just like to ignore facts? Boarding a ship running a blockade in international waters is legal. Beyond that, Israel exercised that option to save lives. A nigh-time raid was planned to catch fewer Islamists communists and anarchists on the decks, minimizing the risk of violence. But I see you want more dead.


42 posted on 06/04/2010 10:22:12 AM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just a liberals who lies.)
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To: rmlew

And I see that you have your head where the sun doesn’t shine.


43 posted on 06/04/2010 10:25:47 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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To: granite

Glad I’m not the only one who noticed the multiple posts on multiple threads... It sounds like a broken record at this point.


44 posted on 06/04/2010 11:01:41 AM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: ConservativeMind

You REALLY need to see that video footage. It’s clear that you have fallen for the propaganda against the IDF.


45 posted on 06/04/2010 11:06:23 AM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: LibertyRocks

The poor thing can’t learn so save your self the trouble.


46 posted on 06/04/2010 12:57:08 PM PDT by widdle_wabbit
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To: ConservativeMind

Refute anything i have said, or admit you are wrong. Name calling just proves you have no case, just resentment.


47 posted on 06/04/2010 1:33:16 PM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just a liberals who lies.)
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To: rmlew

I completely refute your assertion that I want more people dead. None would be dead if this hadn’t happened this way.


48 posted on 06/04/2010 2:58:56 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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To: ConservativeMind

And what should Israel have done?
If the ships were let through, the blockade would end and Iran would arm Hamas with more rockets. This would lead to a war with thousands of dead Arabs.


49 posted on 06/04/2010 3:18:34 PM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just a liberals who lies.)
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To: rmlew

I’ve said this numerous times, but I’ll add a bit to it.

First of all, there’s no way that ship, or any ship, can EVER get to Palestine. They would have to dock at another country and then unload their stuff. If they docked in Israel, the whole ship would be confiscated or disabled and everyone taken prisoner. This would be a great win for Israel.

If that ship made it to another country that then let it in, then that country would be added to the list of countries to be blockaded by the rest of the world.

As for how to stop such a ship, there are multiple non-lethal ways to do so that don’t even require boarding. This is not rocket science for any country to have to figure out. Disable the propeller, block it with another ship or ships, or use some sort of fashioned chain between two ships to halt it.

Other countries could have boarded it. Israel could have boarded it within its exclusive coastal zone with impunity, if they’d waited for it to dock at Israel. Israel could have boarded it without bringing along lethal weapons, or instead packing them with rubber bullets—these were the only guns that were used on anyone, anyway.

As it is, we’ve got a bit less than a dozen killed by invading Israeli forces. Even when the passengers used the IDF guns on the IDF itself, it only wounded the soldiers. Of course, Israel had no way to know the passengers wouldn’t use lethal force, so it should have chosen any of the other less intrusive options to address this.

No one would be dead now and the media wouldn’t have killed, unarmed passengers to tie around the neck of Israel.


50 posted on 06/04/2010 3:43:58 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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To: ConservativeMind

You can’t be serious. Israel boarded them but had no intention of inflicting harm. It was the morons aboard the ship that caused harm and brought upon themselves their own doom.

To suggest otherwise means you haven’t done your homework.


51 posted on 06/04/2010 7:54:03 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: dennisw

You won’t get a reply because you are too smart for your own good.


52 posted on 06/04/2010 7:56:32 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: Almondjoy

Maybe a compliment? thanks


53 posted on 06/05/2010 4:31:16 AM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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To: Mack Truck

That 10 minute standoff was nine and a half minutes too long.


54 posted on 06/05/2010 4:37:57 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: Pollster1
Israel cannot get anything but negative publicity, not matter what they do, so they might as well do the right thing for their men.

Exactly. How Obama can defend the attackers is beyond comprehension. What would he have done? Damn, his SS beat down a couple people for "blocking" his car the other day.

55 posted on 06/05/2010 4:41:01 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Need work. MBA, CPA, Black Belt. Diverse industry and cross border experience.)
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To: dennisw
Defintely was.
56 posted on 06/05/2010 8:31:52 AM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: PaleoBob

Shortly after Israel finally comes to its senses and resigns from that pernicious little chicken coop, it’ll implode on its own hypocrisy.


57 posted on 06/05/2010 2:03:19 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( Two-state solution: A bad idea whose time has gone.)
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To: Almondjoy

The Muslims always like to invoke international law and call actions by Israel and America illegal. Even though the only law these fakers and lying idiots respect is Sharia. In my book only idiots follow a false prophet and only idiots inbreed generation after generation which makes for extreme clannishness and insularity. And makes them paralyzed and unable to break out of Islamic mind control. You don’t want to be the only non-believer in your clan and village.

In this case the Muslims don’t want to hear about international law because It does in fact allow boarding of ships running a blockade. In this case a weapons blockade. Weapons do get in but for the most part Egypt blocks them coming in from the Sinai and Israel blocks them from the sea


58 posted on 06/06/2010 5:55:03 AM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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