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There is no apparent reason for this change in the rules except that the current administration wishes to make life harder for the gun business.
1 posted on 06/01/2010 5:15:08 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

That’s the point of gun regulations.


2 posted on 06/01/2010 5:18:56 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: marktwain

I tried to go to the site and read the reg., but dial up isn’t my friend. Takes forever, and I don’t have that much time. ;)

Logic tells me that as the previous law was established in the ‘60’s, and has been without necessity to change for such a long period of time that something recently is not suiting the agenda of the current usurpers of freedoms in the government. The anti gun Socialist Tyrranists afraid we the people will turn our 2nd Amendment on them as it is designed.

The only thing that comes to mind right now is the multiple states flipping the bird to the Fed gun control laws with the manufacture in State, stays in State does NOT qualify Fed. control bills.

Wondering if this new regulation I was unable to read addresses that in either a direct, or roundabout way?


3 posted on 06/01/2010 5:32:47 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (The Left draws criminals as excrement draws flies. The Left IS a criminal organization.)
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To: marktwain

There is one obvious reason for trying to disarm the people - to protect evil men who want to grab power from free men and women.

5 posted on 06/01/2010 5:37:01 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: marktwain

“legal reason?” I need no legal reason. I am the ATF. I fart in the general direction of your legal reason.


6 posted on 06/01/2010 5:37:38 AM PDT by flowerplough (Damn the middle-class social conventions that require me to mow all those violets and buttercups!)
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To: marktwain
Why did ATF suddenly redefine firearm transfers?

Because they can and nobody will do a thing about it. Another out of control federal beauracracy that should have been shut down long ago

8 posted on 06/01/2010 6:05:55 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: marktwain

So basically now a gun owner shipping a gun back to the manufacturer for repair or inspection must go through a third party (FFL) to do the shipping and receiving if I’m reading this correctly.


10 posted on 06/01/2010 6:34:03 AM PDT by headstamp 2 ("No Good Deed Goes Unpunished")
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To: marktwain

A large majority of the reason for the ATF should be illegal. This is just one more injustice heaped upon many others... A useless federal organization designed to grab power for the government and limit the citizens freedom...


11 posted on 06/01/2010 6:36:37 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: marktwain
I despise the BATF. However, I have had prior experience that makes me slightly understand this rules change:

I shipped a Glock back to the company for a recall/upgrade. They did the work, then did a UPS shipment back to me. The shipment was 'signature of adult'. My apartment neighbor, a shifty character, signed for it. For three days, I attempted to track this guy, and my firearm, down.

A 4473 transfer would have prevented all this, and the possibility of losing my firearm, or it falling into the hands of a felon.

12 posted on 06/01/2010 6:44:49 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
I keep saying it...

The power to regulate is the power to destroy.

Something the Chicago mobsters currently inhabiting the White House know all too well.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

15 posted on 06/01/2010 7:55:36 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: marktwain

My gut wonders if this has something to do with a possible institution of a transfer tax, as there is precident (NFA 34) - might be a wild guess, but just a thought.


17 posted on 06/01/2010 8:16:36 AM PDT by robertwalker62
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The BATFE has made rule changes prior to going after certain entities in the past. I suspect that this is an example of such a rule change. There will be an ATF raid conducted within the next few weeks using this “reinterpretation” as the basis for the raid.

Basically, someone has tinkled in the BATFE’s cheerios and they want to get payback.


18 posted on 06/01/2010 8:23:54 AM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: mrreaganaut

Ping.


19 posted on 06/01/2010 8:34:09 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: marktwain

Are you sure there is no apparent reason for this? Are you sure this is not to go after Montana and other states who say the Interstate Commerce Laws do not apply to their in-state firearms companies selling firearms only within state boundaries.

I’m not sophisticated enough to conclude that, I’m just asking the question. Could this be the way the ATF plans to regulate Montana gun makers selling guns that never cross state lines to Montana residents? The use of the word “any” makes me wonder if this is the case.

Is this a possibility or does it seem unrelated to the handful of states that have passed these laws?


21 posted on 06/01/2010 8:55:49 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Liberal are like termites eating away our cultural foundations.)
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To: marktwain
One word: "NUDGE"
23 posted on 06/01/2010 8:58:51 AM PDT by shezza (Blue star wife - God bless and keep safe our troops in harm's way.)
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To: marktwain

The BATF is a group of thugs, and anti-civil rights goons. It should be shut down. Any other government agency with their history of discrimination and FUBAR would have been closed years ago. Liberals over look the actions of these scum bags because the agency is trying to tear town the Second Amendment.


25 posted on 06/01/2010 9:07:05 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: marktwain

The reason is to make the gun owner database (the one they claim not to have) more complete.


26 posted on 06/01/2010 9:15:15 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: marktwain

“Stroke of the pen, Law of the land. Kinda cool!”
Paul Begala

By unelected bureaucrats none the less.


28 posted on 06/01/2010 9:19:45 AM PDT by listenhillary (You might be a modern LIBERAL if you read 1984 & said "YEAH! That's the world that I want!")
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To: marktwain

Actually, over on Sipsey Street the buzz is that this was a setup on the part of a faction within ATF that is looking to see the current acting director thrown out on his ass.


29 posted on 06/01/2010 9:24:36 AM PDT by jdege
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To: marktwain
BATFE. Another useless agency (like the depts of Education, energy and infernal revenue) that needs to be dissolved and it's agents summarily fired (or retired) so that they can't spread more of their brand of tyranny to other segments of the government.
35 posted on 06/01/2010 11:59:46 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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