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MOJAVE CROSS Rally today
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Posted on 05/31/2010 7:44:46 PM PDT by fantail 1952

A small convoy of vehicles, in everything from old pick-up trucks to a stretch limo, with about thiry passengers total, left Victorville for the 130 mile trip to the site of the Mojave Cross, which vandals had torn down and stole a couple weeks ago, after the SCOTUS had ruled that it was not a religious symbol, but a war memorial, and that the box(!) civering it since the suit was filed several years ago.

When a replacement was erected, it was immediately taken down by rangers of the Mojave Preserve, contending that since it was not the original cross, it was not allowed.

A new cross now stands on the site, and although we know it, too will be removed. it was a gesture of our disgust the way this whole situation has been handled.

When we arrived at the location,we had expected a few people to be waiting....And we found that another like-minded group had already set up. They were as surprised at our arrival as we were to see more than 75 there already! We joined forces for a very moving memorial service, with two pastors, and several speakers. We even arranged for one of our locals to fly over and photograph the event! Yes, we have our own air force!

The location is very remote, six desert miles from Interstate 15 to the north, and I40 about 30 miles south.

Some of the participants drove over 300 miles to attend, from as far away as San Diego, San Fernando and Bakersfield.

Plans are in the works to use this site as a point to possibly have another...Or several, if needed to have the cross replaced permanently.

Photos and further information will be posted as soon as they are available.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: 912patriots; activism; cross; mojave; teaparty
We should have another rally there within a few weeks, and are planning an event for Veterans Day as well!
1 posted on 05/31/2010 7:44:46 PM PDT by fantail 1952
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To: fantail 1952

Wear ‘em down. God speed.


2 posted on 05/31/2010 7:51:20 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: fantail 1952

**************Applause***************

Go PATRIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


3 posted on 05/31/2010 7:53:40 PM PDT by pollywog ("Under His Wings".........Psalm 91:4)
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To: fantail 1952

Thank you. That’s a good work so be of good cheer.


4 posted on 05/31/2010 7:56:22 PM PDT by bereanway (Sarah get your gun)
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To: fantail 1952

Thanks for the post fantail


5 posted on 05/31/2010 7:57:48 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (The Left draws criminals as excrement draws flies. The Left IS a criminal organization.)
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To: fantail 1952

I thought the cross was on private property?


6 posted on 05/31/2010 8:03:59 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: fantail 1952

Prayers for your continued success.


7 posted on 05/31/2010 8:08:16 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Eagles6
I'm not sure about the property issue, but since the entire area is within the Mojave Preserve, an area larger than some states, it comes under the feds jurisdiction, which means the rangers are in charge!

BTW, the entire event was watched at a distance, by two rangers, one each about 3-400 yards north and south of the location.

8 posted on 05/31/2010 8:25:31 PM PDT by fantail 1952 (God bless and keep those who sacrificed their all for our freedom!)
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To: fantail 1952
BUMP for our veterans and all of those who gave their lives in defense of Liberty.


9 posted on 05/31/2010 8:30:11 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("Socialist/Jihadist Obama Boats: Blockade running in support of terrorists since 2010.")
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To: fantail 1952
As these rats keep pushing God fearing people, the lid will come off and I can guarantee that God loving people can be very very forceful. Keep pushing, rats, your day will come and sooner than they expect.
10 posted on 05/31/2010 8:48:45 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: fantail 1952
Yeah, I thought that the VFW had traded some property for that spot or some such. It don't matter.

What does matter is that that the Cross represents Christ and that symbolism sends those that hate freedom into a frothing rage.

You and your compadres are doing a good thing, keep it up.

I like that you have your own air force!

11 posted on 05/31/2010 9:00:39 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: fantail 1952

Two quick points. The supreme court clearly never intended that the ruling was specific to THAT specific cross, that it could never be repaired or replaced. This needs to be addressed legally,,,immediately with a lawsuit againt the rangers who removed the replacement.

The other point,,,it that we need to maintain a vigil there. The rangers need to be photographed removing it. We can use that as hard propaganda against them. Photos of rangers removing the cross can go viral and cause a lot of harm to their cause.


12 posted on 05/31/2010 9:10:33 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: fantail 1952

Have you contacted the county sheriff?

Charges need to be filed against the NPS fascists for trespass and theft.


13 posted on 06/01/2010 6:08:17 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave
A little research shows that the real estate transfer was disallowed at this point, thus the Federal authority supecedes county at this point.

Further, our current county sheriff is not inclined to take any controversial actions, as he was appointed and is running for election.... a purely political animal, so to speak. His name is Rod Hoops (should be hOOPS) That election takes place next week, and most of us in the constitutionalist (Lunatic?) fringe are backing Paul Schrader, a genuine conservative.

14 posted on 06/01/2010 9:29:10 AM PDT by fantail 1952 (God bless and keep those who sacrificed their all for our freedom!)
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To: fantail 1952

You might want to research the original language in the senate and house committees when the park was created. These hearings establish “orginal intent” in creating these national parks and have the force of law. If the flag is included in the park’s creation, you have at least one ruling for your side.

See Isle Royale Boaters Association v NPS.

“On June 6, 2001, U.S. District Court Judge Gordon J. Quist, issued an Opinion and Order which ruled against the Isle Royale Boaters Association and in favor of the National Park Service. Although Judge Quist ruled for the NPS, the Judge affirmed a major point of IRBA; namely, that the Senate Committee language of 1976 has the force of law.”

Sorry about your “appointed” sheriff. A good constitutional sheriff would’ve arrested the NPA thugs.


15 posted on 06/01/2010 10:09:13 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: fantail 1952
Did anyone from Y Clamplus Vitus join in?

They might be a good organization to contact for support as they are keen on protecting historic sites in the desert.

16 posted on 06/02/2010 5:22:54 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (These fragments I have shored against my ruins)
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To: fantail 1952

Good luck,Godspeed to you all and keep hammerin’!


17 posted on 06/03/2010 8:39:38 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee ("In a time of universal deceit,telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act"-George Orwell)
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To: DesertRhino

The other point,,,it that we need to maintain a vigil there. The rangers need to be photographed removing it. We can use that as hard propaganda against them. Photos of rangers removing the cross can go viral and cause a lot of harm to their cause.
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That makes sense. I volunteer to go one day every other month.


18 posted on 06/04/2010 3:39:16 PM PDT by ecomcon
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