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Cancer patient forced by judge to have surgery
Daiy Telegraph ^ | May 26th 2020 | Martin Beckford and Stephen Adams

Posted on 05/27/2010 11:51:09 AM PDT by Cardhu

Cancer patient forced by judge to have surgery A cancer patient is to be forced to undergo life-saving treatment against her wishes after a landmark ruling by a judge.

Doctors will be allowed forcibly to sedate the 55-year-old woman in her home and take her to hospital for surgery. She could be forced to remain on a ward afterwards.

The case has sparked an intense ethical and legal debate. Experts questioned whether lawyers and doctors should be able to override the wishes of patients and whether force was ever justified in providing medical care.

Treatment was ordered by Sir Nicholas Wall, the President of the Family Division, in the Court of Protection, after surgeons at the woman's local hospital applied for permission to force the surgery on her. They argued that without it, advanced cancer of the uterus would kill her.

Sir Nicholas agreed because the woman, who has learning difficulties, was deemed incapable of making a rational decision about the operation.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: cancer; fascism; lping; surgery; ungland
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1 posted on 05/27/2010 11:51:09 AM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu
UK? HHmmmm.

The issues are still relevant though as Zer0 could soon have us all declared incompetent.

2 posted on 05/27/2010 11:54:14 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Cardhu
Good grief.
If this woman were pregnant could they force her to get an abortion because she has limited faculties.
Where does this end? Every person could be declared unfit and forced into a surgical procedure.
3 posted on 05/27/2010 11:57:25 AM PDT by svcw (Habakkuk 2:3)
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To: Cardhu

Isn’t she going to die eventually anyway? Taxpayer? Labor voter? Who knows?


4 posted on 05/27/2010 11:57:31 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Cardhu

Amazingly, she is competent enough to make all decisions except when she disagrees with the state-employee doctors.

Coming soon to a U.S. government health clinic near you!


5 posted on 05/27/2010 11:59:58 AM PDT by MortMan (I'm just an inkjet printer in a holographic world...)
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To: Cardhu
The Kicker -

"The Mental Capacity Act 2005 allows patients to specify in advance the circumstances under which they do not wish to receive further treatment, in legally-binding documents known as "living wills".

"The same law also allows the Court of Protection – a little-known body that previously only dealt with finances – to decide on the "best interests" of those who lack mental capacity and rule on their welfare and medical treatment."

6 posted on 05/27/2010 12:02:27 PM PDT by BossLady (No More Corona in Arizona!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: MortMan

The same type of thing happened last year in Minnesota. It was a teenager and he and his family wanted to treat his cancer using the natural, holistic approach. Judge ruled that he had to undergo chemo treatments.


7 posted on 05/27/2010 12:04:22 PM PDT by Spudx7
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To: Cardhu
Next up...have the judge forcibly committed to a mental institution. If the judge doesn't like it, he can just STFU. Individuals no longer have a choice. The all powerful judiciary is in charge now.
8 posted on 05/27/2010 12:04:37 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: BossLady; MortMan; svcw

This is not at unusual as one would imagine.

“Dr Evan Harris, a former member of the Commons science and technology committee, said: “In A&E departments up and down the country, patients without capacity, such as those drunk, drugged, psychotic, confused or with dementia, are treated seemingly against their will, day in and day out. Learning disability coupled with needle or hospital-phobia in a patient with cancer is unusual but is a relatively routine matter for clinical ethics.”


9 posted on 05/27/2010 12:07:30 PM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu

This is the fault of the previous administration.


10 posted on 05/27/2010 12:13:07 PM PDT by JusPasenThru (Why won't those knuckle-dragging tea-bagging right-wing bastards just negotiate with me?)
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To: Cardhu

bump


11 posted on 05/27/2010 12:13:09 PM PDT by FourPeas (God Bless America)
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To: Cardhu

They are not saying she is temporarily incapacitated, but that she is permanent incapable of understanding her decision. They are also not saying she is incompetent for other life-affecting decisions.

I read the whole article and find it incredulous that they can forcibly treat her without invalidating her competence in any other aspect. This is NOT a temporary ruling - but applies to this woman in perpetuity - she is ruled incompetent to make any decision the doctors disagree with.


12 posted on 05/27/2010 12:20:17 PM PDT by MortMan (I'm just an inkjet printer in a holographic world...)
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To: Cardhu
Doctors will be allowed forcibly to sedate the 55-year-old woman in her home and take her to hospital for surgery.

If she is able to live in her own home, she is either competent enough to make her own decisions, or she has a caretaker. There was no caretaker mentioned, so I am left with the conclusion that she was indeed capable of deciding for herself.

If she had requested euthanasia, many people would have cheered her on as she died.
13 posted on 05/27/2010 12:21:50 PM PDT by Ellendra (Can't starve us out, and you can't make us run. . . -Hank Jr.)
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To: Cardhu

This is the kind of power that pediatrician groups would love to have over parents. Especially undesirables like gun-owners, bible-readers, homeschoolers, etc...


14 posted on 05/27/2010 12:25:44 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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I did, and still think it sets a bad precedent. Where does one draw the line between 'mental incapacity' and 'mental competence'? Many would argue (incorrectly) that merely refusing medical treatment is proof enough of mental incompetence.

My Grandmother was diagnosed with cancer twice in mid-life. She recovered through prayer. She finally did develop cancer a third time and died of it - at the age of 91! (with medical treatment)

15 posted on 05/27/2010 12:31:45 PM PDT by ARepublicanForAllReasons (BORDERS, LAWS and LANGUAGE)
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To: ARepublicanForAllReasons; Ellendra

I agree with both of you it is a very difficult situation, that is why there is the controversy.

“...because the woman, who has learning difficulties, was deemed incapable of making a rational decision about the operation.”

“Learning difficulties,” seems way down the scale of mental incapacity or competence.

On the other hand, thank goodness there is absolutely no profit motive involved in this decision as neither the doctors or the hospital will benefit in any way whatsoever.

If they had complied with her change of mind I am sure many would be claiming ‘death panels’ - so perhaps getting the judicial ruling is the best form of protection for all concerned from future problems.


16 posted on 05/27/2010 12:59:18 PM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu
If they had complied with her change of mind I am sure many would be claiming ‘death panels’ - so perhaps getting the judicial ruling is the best form of protection for all concerned from future problems.

I disagree. We're either free, or we're not. If this woman has the legal authority to make her other life decisions, then she should be permitted to make this decision too (even though I strongly disagree with her choice). If she is not competent to make other decisions, then there should be one individual who does have the authority to make her daily life decisions, and that person should make the decision for her, unless the court signs her rent contract for her and controls her daily spending. The court was wrong to order the treatment, and the doctors were wrong to ask that the courts compel a free American to follow their orders.

17 posted on 05/27/2010 1:53:59 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Cardhu

This is just amazing.

Recently there was an article from the UK about a woman doctor who needed cancer treatment, and needed a new drug that would save her life.

They decided she wasn’t worth it.

And now this?

Little minds with nothing to do but interfere with other people’s lives. Hell on Earth, indeed.


18 posted on 05/27/2010 2:03:31 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: Ellendra

In England people are left in their homes and caretakers visit.


19 posted on 05/27/2010 2:21:09 PM PDT by Chickensoup ("A corrupt society has many laws" - Tacitus)
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To: MortMan

Just like Terri Schiavo. If the state wants to kill you it will.


20 posted on 05/27/2010 2:27:29 PM PDT by BenKenobi (I want to hear more about Sam! Samwise the stouthearted!)
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