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1 posted on 05/27/2010 6:47:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The hard truth told, Gold in a crisis is useless. After all the hype and fears are worn out; it has to be sold for necessities. The clarion call will sound and this bubble will pop.


3 posted on 05/27/2010 6:52:06 AM PDT by Broker (Stranger in a very strange land.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Food, water, guns, bullets.


4 posted on 05/27/2010 6:54:34 AM PDT by ryan71 (Let's Roll!)
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Gold is not an investment.

Gold is savings.


5 posted on 05/27/2010 6:54:35 AM PDT by farmguy
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Yes, it's a "hard asset," but so are lots of other things—like land, bags of rice, even bottled water.

Or ammunition.

6 posted on 05/27/2010 6:56:17 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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Yes, but Warren B. is a bit of a P.T. Barnum. His local jewelry firm is buying old jewelry just like the rest. Buffett’s like Obama, it's what he does, not what he says. Gold seems like it has only one purpose; for use in the case of emergency and the emergency must be hyper-inflation. With the ship of fools in Washington and other capitals around the world, the possibility seems more like a probability, so how stupid is it?
7 posted on 05/27/2010 6:58:14 AM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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What if the price goes back to where it was just a few years ago, at $500 or $600 an ounce? Will you buy more?

Yes.

Buffet misses the point. We are at a stage of history when everything we thought constituted an investment is about to be wiped out. It started with the dotcom bubble. It continued with the housing bubble. We know the resultant paper and physical losses that followed. Now, we have this ridiculous debt bubble that is a worldwide scandal. When the other shoe drops, we'll finally know where we stand (only we won't be standing). In that scenario, all investment bets are off; except one.

The point not to be missed about gold is not that it's an investment, but that it will withstand the worst case scenario.

9 posted on 05/27/2010 6:58:39 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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Dave Ramsey told a caller once that he’d be better off with a can of soup and a gun, if it hit the fan.


10 posted on 05/27/2010 6:58:43 AM PDT by lacrew (Barack Obama is always the least experienced most condescending guy in the room. (Rush))
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The utility of gold is that it can be exchanged for any currency. At some point you can't exchange Zimbabwe dollars for US dollars at any exchange rate simply because nobody wants the Zimbabwe dollars. Gold's value is when you don't know what currency will still be valuable after the crash and what currency will be nicely printed toilet paper. It is like "Investing" in lifeboats. You don't buy a lifeboat because you expect to make money selling it later. You buy a lifeboat because it will get you out of a bad place when everything around you goes to heck.
12 posted on 05/27/2010 6:59:40 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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Free market. period.


13 posted on 05/27/2010 7:01:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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And this is for one simple reason: At some levels, gold, as an investment, is absolutely ridiculous”

What’s ridiculous is the notion that any and all fiat currencies will end up with any value other than totally, flat as a pancake worthless. Gold is a store of value and it has filled that role admirably for much, much longer than any fiat has ever approached. The $ only looks good because it’s being valued against a basket of even more worthless fiats.

There’s a race to the bottom that has accelerated dramatically over the past few years that will result in most financial assets being wiped out. Late 08 and early 09 was a foretaste. You don’t solve debt issues by creating more debt which is all we’ve done.

We are not in a gold bubble, one has to only look at the valuation being attached to the mining stocks along with silver’s relative value wrt gold to clearly see that truth. Gold has much further to run in a world where it’s being valued in rapidly depreciating currencies.


15 posted on 05/27/2010 7:02:52 AM PDT by bereanway (Sarah get your gun)
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To: SeekAndFind; PA Engineer; blam; TigerLikesRooster; Cheap_Hessian; CJinVA; Jet Jaguar; ...

Goldbug ping

Well let’s count how many ways this is trite old rehash:
- no dividend, check
- you can’t eat it, check
- what if you bought it at the tippy tippy top, before you were born?, check

Then he waves his hands about how much “surplus” gold there is, using as the absolutely worst mental image possible, how many bullion coins the Mint could make with it. Does anybody remember exactly how many times in 2008 and 2009 the Mint stopped accepting orders because they couldn’t get material? Four, five, more?

And people are buying gold and hanging on to it, that’s why the price is high, because there’s less of it out there?

His first installment of this series came out on May 25, the very day of gold options expiration, notorious and easily proven for almost every month of the last year to be as the time when gold hits its monthly bottom.

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17 posted on 05/27/2010 7:02:59 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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Gold is a hedge, not an investment. It has no more or less value than what people give it, just like any other asset.


22 posted on 05/27/2010 7:08:10 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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Why I don’t trust gold?

Because what can go violently UP, can come violently DOWN!

What goes up must come down.


23 posted on 05/27/2010 7:08:47 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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Yes, it's a "hard asset," but so are lots of other things—like land, bags of rice, even bottled water.

Rice is a hard asset until the meal worms or moths show up. There might be gold bugs, but they don't eat your gold.

32 posted on 05/27/2010 7:17:02 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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“Warren Buffett put it well. ‘Gold gets dug out of the ground in Africa, or someplace,’ he said. ‘Then we melt it down, dig another hole, bury it again and pay people to stand around guarding it. It has no utility. Anyone watching from Mars would be scratching their head.’”

Warren Buffett is being facetious, I’m sure. It has enormous utility. It is the greatest medium of exchange yet discovered by mankind. That fact is so plain and simple that a child can understand it, and I’m sure if we could find a way to communicate with sentient Martians, they’d get it, too. Though apparently (but not really), it’s beyond the delicate “genius” of Buffett.


34 posted on 05/27/2010 7:19:45 AM PDT by Tublecane
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“Yes, it’s a ‘hard asset,’ but so are lots of other things—like land, bags of rice, even bottled water.”

It hardly needs to be pointed out that land is only as valuable as the market dictates, and that the shelf life of rice and water is drastically shorter than that of gold.


36 posted on 05/27/2010 7:21:42 AM PDT by Tublecane
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Warren Buffett put it well. "Gold gets dug out of the ground in Africa, or someplace," he said. "Then we melt it down, dig another hole, bury it again and pay people to stand around guarding it. It has no utility. Anyone watching from Mars would be scratching their head."

That's my issue with gold as well...except there always seems to be someone willing to pay for it.

43 posted on 05/27/2010 7:35:00 AM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to leave in the hands of the government.)
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“Imagine a bunch of health nuts in a nonsmoking ‘facility’ still trying to settle their debts with cigarettes. That’s gold. It doesn’t make sense.”

What if the nuts knew that no matter whether anyone wanted to smoke them they would still be valuable? Because that is gold. It’s always valuable. Mystification at the power of gold ought to disqualify one from writing about it. That’s just the way it is. It’s shiny and pretty and people everywhere know they can use it to get other stuff.

By the way, prisoners aren’t locked into using smokes as currency. They can also use, you know, currency. Which still has value behind bars, though you can’t smoke it. Actually, you can smoke the paper variety, but not without adding something.


44 posted on 05/27/2010 7:36:33 AM PDT by Tublecane
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Oh, NOW he doesn’t trust gold. If a person has a middling amount to invest, he is a moron to buy into a heated-up market. Buying gold now is for people with money to lose or time to monitor the price like a hawk and the resources get out in minutes. Gold fund, maybe... real gold, not so easy.


48 posted on 05/27/2010 7:40:18 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ( Racism is the first refuge of liberals. --J.T. Young)
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If gold scared one of the original Democrat communists so much that he banned gold coins and ordered them melted down, then that tells me I should have some gold in my savings.


49 posted on 05/27/2010 7:40:29 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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