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"Don't Ask" Repeal Deal May be Imminent
CBS News ^ | May 24, 2010 | Brian Montopoli

Posted on 05/24/2010 8:59:29 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction

Gay rights groups met with White House and congressional leaders this morning to discuss a potentially-imminent repeal of the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy that bars gays and lesbians from serving openly in the military.

The impetus for the meetings is a push in Congress, which passed the measure under President Bill Clinton, to add a repeal of the policy to the upcoming defense authorization bill.

Repeal "had been on a slow track awaiting completion of a Pentagon study at the end of this year," reports CBS News National Security Correspondent David Martin. "Gay rights proponents and their Democratic allies on Capitol Hill and in the White House have decided it's now or not for a very long time since the elections this fall are expected to bring in a more conservative, more Republican Congress."

On Thursday, as the Washington Post reports, the Senate Armed Services Committee will vote on adding the repeal provision to the bill; the House may also vote on the matter this week.

While repeal could pass via the defense authorization bill, it would reportedly not go into effect under the pending deal until after the president, the secretary of defense and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff review an ongoing Pentagon study into the impact of repeal. That review is set to be completed by December 1st.

The president and military brass must approve moving forward after the review comes back, and implimentation of repeal could take years.

Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Adm. Mike Mullen has already called ending the policy "the right thing to do," and President Obama has vowed repeal.

According to the Advocate, a Statement of Administration Policy on the issue is expected this week.

It is not clear that there are enough votes to attach a repeal to the defense authorization bill. Sen. Carl Levin, the chair of the Armed Services Committee, is believed to be at least one vote short of the 15 votes he needs, though up to six senators are reportedly wavering.

"The Pentagon was caught flat footed by this sudden change in the legislative landscape and officials are scrambling to figure out whether they are for or against the compromise - and whether there are enough votes on the Hill to pass it," reports Martin.

Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI), Joseph Lieberman (I-CT) and Rep. Patrick Murphy sent a letter today to Mr. Obama urging him to support their "legislative proposal...that puts a process in place to repeal 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell,' once the working group has completed its review and you, the Secretary of Defense, and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs certify that repeal can be achieved consistent with the military's standards of readiness, effectiveness, unit cohesion, and recruiting and retention."

"It is our firm belief that it is time to repeal this discriminatory policy that not only dishonors those who are willing to give their lives in service to their country but also prevents capable men and women with vital skills from serving in the Armed Forces at a time when our Nation is fighting two wars," they write.

The White House said they support the Democrat's legislative amendment to repeal "Don't Ask" even though it would have been ideal to wait until the review was finished.

"The Administration is of the view that the proposed amendment meets the concerns raised by the Secretary of Defense and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff," Peter Orszag, the director of the Office of Management and Budget for the White House wrote in a letter to Lieberman. "The Administration therefore supports the proposed amendment."


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To: ConjunctionJunction; Fred Nerks; Beckwith
Every nation that ever as accepted the gay life style as mainstream has failed to survive, but falls apart due to lack of social cohesion. Gays destroy the glue that holds society together.The fall of Tibet Rome and Greece are all cases in point.Things that give society continuity are destroyed by gays: birth of children,patriotism, selfless service to others becomes :its all about me", the military become social conventions pretending to be military, resources go to art but not to government and defence, STDs become rampant.This is what happens to social cohesion when gays become involved in the distribution of power in society.

You have one in the white house.Now you are seeing social cohesion disappear.He is doing that purposefully, sort of an anti Camelot president, the Mordred type of King Arthur infamy.Obama is truly a "Dark Lord."

I notice he has refised to go to Arlington for Memorial Day.The piker is now afraid, and well he should be.

41 posted on 05/25/2010 5:49:03 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is a fascist... ...He meets everydiagnostic of history)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

They finally gonna ask Kagan?


42 posted on 05/25/2010 6:12:36 AM PDT by avacado
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To: hoagy62
I am not sure I want someone like him working near a nuclear power plant on one of our Navy ships of the line.

Afraid he might stuff wasabi taffy into the coolant pipes?

43 posted on 05/25/2010 6:25:13 AM PDT by reaganairport
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To: ConjunctionJunction

They’ll need a draft in a few years.

Every base will have a lawyer to find for homorights everytime a Sgt yells and makes someone cry.


44 posted on 05/25/2010 6:33:08 AM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: DouglasKC
“It is our firm belief that it is time to repeal this discriminatory policy that not only dishonors those who are willing to give their lives in service to their country but also prevents capable men and women with vital skills from serving in the Armed Forces at a time when our Nation is fighting two wars,” they write.”

It is a slap in the face to everyone who ever served. Handicapped people are willing to give their life for their country so where do we draw the line, no paraplegics or quadrapelgics? Every year thousands of service members are discharged for failure to maintain their weight, fat body discrimination must stop! We need to redefine standards because fat bodies are willing to serve and die. Allot of people from allot of groups are barred from service, for the good of the service. Does not mean they are not patriotic, I know of men who starved themselves to make weight to enlist, but could not sustain their weight and were kicked out. Lieberman is a scum bag, literally and figuratively.

45 posted on 05/25/2010 6:34:57 AM PDT by OldGoatCPO
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Johnny will be prancing off to war soon.

Obama will need a draft of millions to get the angry young men off the streets. Our angry young men will be sent to kill the angry young men of South Central Asia and on the Yellow Sea.

History is repeating itself.

I wonder if Rosie the Riveter will gleefully march off to the factory with the patriotic fervor as they did in the 40’s.


46 posted on 05/25/2010 6:37:09 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (This nation, of the people, by the people, and for the people has perished from the land.)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Yeah, because THIS is what we need to worry about right now!

We have double-digit unemployment, a trillion dollar deficit, oil clogging up the Gulf, and N Korea about to go apesh*t, and we’re worried about gays in the military?? WTF???


47 posted on 05/25/2010 6:39:56 AM PDT by RockinRight (I can see November from here!)
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To: SkyPilot

I always look to see who is still clueless enough to keep the bumper stickers on their cars.

9 out of 10 times they’re women, more often than not, exactly as you describe them.


48 posted on 05/25/2010 6:41:01 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: B Knotts
"They’ll do anything to weaken America."

IMO, the goal is to advance an agenda. Weakening America is a consequence..not a goal.

49 posted on 05/25/2010 6:43:11 AM PDT by verity
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To: GeronL
To be honest, I have served with homosexuals, we knew who they were. If they were not caught in the act, it was not an issue. For the most part they were good at their jobs, they were good Sailors and yes good Marines. I know one Marine that was pretty tough, I would not have called him a fag to his face. Don't ask, don't tell works, why screw with it. Oh...sorry I forgot who is running the country at this time. Repubs need to block this, the reason they are rushing this through is because it is NOT popular with the rank file in the military. If they cannot get this done by November, it will not get done unless Obama wins in 2012. Straight female members are harassed by lesbians more than men are by gays. If I remember correctly under DADT more females have been discharged than males. Officer will NOT be respected, Senior Enlisted who come out will not be respected, there will be fights, gay pride month and rainbow banners on bases. Chaplains will be order to conduct gay marriages and counsel gay couples or get out. I guess there will only be Episcopal and some Lutheran Chaplains.
50 posted on 05/25/2010 6:44:30 AM PDT by OldGoatCPO
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIFUm70n0fU


51 posted on 05/25/2010 6:49:35 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

So it takes 3 years, half-a-dozen environmental impact studies and hundreds of thousands of dollars to even put a shovel in the ground to build something. But we can launch a potentially devastating social experiment on our armed forces without so much as a tough question. I’m starting to wish for bad things to happen to these assclowns.


52 posted on 05/25/2010 7:27:31 AM PDT by yooling ( FUBO)
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To: ConjunctionJunction
Divert and distract while the economy is tanking, unemployment remains high, the Administration has failed to contain the oil spill in the Gulf, the Iranians continue on their path to nuclear weapons, NK and South Korea are squaring off for a possible war, etc.

Obama, the community organizer continues to use issues like immigration and gay rights to divide and polarize the American people and energize his base.

53 posted on 05/25/2010 7:50:04 AM PDT by kabar
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To: OldGoatCPO; NavVet
"Don't ask, don't tell works, why screw with it."

Exactly, Chief. BTW, thanks for your many years. I was gonna do my 20, but my rating closed up and I got a great civilian offer.

Also, during my short stint as a Naval Reserve Recruiter at North Island, my CPO supervisor was a butch but was one of the best supervisors I worked for in my 11 years. DADT, works and allows gays to serve. So what's the problem?

And don't even start me on females aboard small surface combatants or submarines! When I served, women were still serving on tenders, oilers, and supply ships. Even then, they had a huge problem with the girls crying harassment for nothing more than a male sailor looking at them. Then there was, and still is, the matter of women getting pregnant or faking female problems so as not to deploy. You know who takes up the slack.

Women on subs in those narrow passagways? I'm astounded that our Navy brass is so short-sighted.

US Navy brown and black shoe - 1975-1986

54 posted on 05/25/2010 7:58:10 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever!)
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To: GATOR NAVY; NavVet
"Yep."

I second your "yep" from another gator. USS New Orleans (LPH-11).

55 posted on 05/25/2010 8:07:21 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever!)
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To: reaganairport
Afraid he might stuff wasabi taffy into the coolant pipes?

Well, no...but I'm afraid he'll make some of the stuff and attempt to feed it to someone. That crap could be used for a torture method at Club Gitmo.

What kinda frightens me is if they station him aboard a sub. Think about it.

56 posted on 05/25/2010 8:08:48 AM PDT by hoagy62 (.)
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To: ConjunctionJunction
There's a huge oil spill, Europe's economy might be on the brink of collapse, war in Korea may be imminent, and our economy is headed for another sharp downturn... and congressional leaders are forcing a vote on "Don't ask don't tell"?

Voters need to nuke the Democrat party.
57 posted on 05/25/2010 9:20:46 AM PDT by dr_who
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Homosexuality is a mental illness and the mentally ill have no place in the military.


58 posted on 05/25/2010 9:25:38 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: ConjunctionJunction

It’s really all about those in the military now and how they will handle the out of the closet stuff - in your face.

What if two gays start going at it in the barracks after lights out? Would that event also be acceptable?


59 posted on 05/25/2010 9:45:08 AM PDT by unique
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To: Berlin_Freeper

That is Great.


60 posted on 05/25/2010 10:59:22 AM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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