Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Americans outgunned by Taleban’s AK47s
Timesonline ^

Posted on 05/24/2010 1:23:57 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Americans outgunned by Taleban’s AK47s

Marines on patrol armed with the M4 rifle. It may be the wrong weapon for the job Michael Evans, Pentagon Correspondent

The future of the standard issue infantry rifle used by American troops in Afghanistan is under review amid concerns that it is the wrong weapon for the job.

With its light bullets the M4 rifle lacks sufficient velocity and killing power in long-range firefights, leaving US troops outgunned by the Taleban and their AK47 Kalashnikovs and the old Russian SVD sniper rifle.

British Forces face the same dilemma but the Ministry of Defence said yesterday that there was no plan to review the SA80A2 rifle, which fires the same Nato 5.56mm calibre rounds as its US counterpart. “We constantly review all of our capabilities,” a spokesman said.

However, Britain has followed the US in investing in 400 new larger-calibre Sharpshooter rifles, which use a heavier 7.62mm round, and are effective at longer ranges. The weapon is expected to be deployed in Afghanistan, alongside the standard rifle, by the end of the month.

The US Army, however, is looking at switching from the M4 rifle, which is only accurate up to 1,000 feet to one that fires the larger round. It is designating nine soldiers in each infantry company to serve as sharpshooters, equipped with the new M110 sniper rifle — accurate to beyond 2,500 feet.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; banglist; garand; military
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 101-109 next last

1 posted on 05/24/2010 1:23:58 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Sub-Driver

Bring back the Win 94.


2 posted on 05/24/2010 1:26:33 PM PDT by Paladin2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sub-Driver

3 posted on 05/24/2010 1:27:00 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sub-Driver

Here we go again.... :)


4 posted on 05/24/2010 1:27:11 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Abathar

More like Awgeez....


5 posted on 05/24/2010 1:27:47 PM PDT by Perdogg (Nancy Pelosi did more damage to America on 03/21 than Al Qaeda did on 09/11)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Sub-Driver

So as an experiment, pull the M4s, replace with AR-10s that have been altered for selective fire add in some 600 yard-ish sights. Of course, this is a lot like going back to the M-14 without the same weight.

Or you could take some of the old M-14s and configure them for bullpup so they work better from vehicles http://www.shortrifles.com/


6 posted on 05/24/2010 1:28:11 PM PDT by taxcontrol
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sub-Driver

The shortcomings of the M-4 at distances not withstanding, It would be nice if the author explained why he, or she, thinks an ALK-47 makes a superior long range weapon.


7 posted on 05/24/2010 1:28:59 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Lucky

Only in volley fire. ;)


8 posted on 05/24/2010 1:29:38 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Sub-Driver
which is only accurate up to 1,000 feet to one that fires the larger round.

In the Corps I was expected to put rounds into a man sized target at ranges of up to 600 meters with a rack grade M16-A1.

9 posted on 05/24/2010 1:30:19 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sub-Driver

An M14 with a composite stock would be nice.


10 posted on 05/24/2010 1:31:51 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sub-Driver

I guess it’s much easier to just by a new gun than it is to train troops better.


11 posted on 05/24/2010 1:31:51 PM PDT by Ajnin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Paladin2

Bring back the M14. Or the Garand.


12 posted on 05/24/2010 1:32:44 PM PDT by rickb308 (Muslims need to check with Native Americans & ask how that whole cowboys & indians thing worked out.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: taxcontrol

AR-10s or DSA makes some very nice SA58 and STG 58 FAL clones for $1100 to 1900.

Or an updated M-14. This is such BS. Obama wants our soldiers dead and humiliated by his m**lim bosses. Bush and Cheney should have fixed this before they left office too.


13 posted on 05/24/2010 1:34:21 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain/Graham = La Raza's Senators)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Sub-Driver

OH NOES WE ARE OUTGUNZ0R3D RUNS AWAY RUNS AWAY@!

Can they possibly be any more blatant in their attempts to demoralize the troops? Who the hell wrote this garbage, Hanoi Hannah?


14 posted on 05/24/2010 1:34:35 PM PDT by angryoldfatman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rickb308

I’m all in favor of the M14. We could make a carbine version. Put a saddle ring on it.


15 posted on 05/24/2010 1:34:48 PM PDT by Paladin2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Sub-Driver
1000 feet???? Another poorly researched and written story.
16 posted on 05/24/2010 1:34:58 PM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sub-Driver
Stoner says you all are FOS. BTW... many now carry AR-10 and variants. 7.62 mm (.308) will git er dun! An AK is little more than a garden hose for bullets.

LLS

17 posted on 05/24/2010 1:35:57 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Zuben Elgenubi

That rifle looks almost like a REPR from LWRCI.


18 posted on 05/24/2010 1:37:37 PM PDT by VRWCmember
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Sub-Driver
When will these people get that the M4 is a carbine, not a rifle. The standard M16 will outrange (accuracy-wise)any AK-47. And neither is going to outshoot a dedicated long range scoped rifle.
19 posted on 05/24/2010 1:38:12 PM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (Alea Iacta Est)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rickb308

http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php?clicktype=rifles


20 posted on 05/24/2010 1:38:34 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 101-109 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson