Posted on 05/23/2010 4:21:53 PM PDT by An Old Man
Big picture: We believe stocks have entered catastrophic wave (C ) down, which should be the third and most devastating phase of the Grand Supercycle degree wave {IV} Bear Market. This decline has the potential to be a nation changing economic meltdown.
So what does this mean? Permit us to give some educated speculative possibilities: It likely means there will be a political reaction to this meltdown like nothing we have ever seen before. You see how aggressive the Central Planners have been, closing the barn door after the horse has gotten out, spending at least $2 trillion that we know about, but are not sure where the money went. Well, multiply this by a thousand. We could see a reaction to a global economic meltdown that includes the following: Either by edict or by popular consent after a successful propaganda campaign, we could see the joining of a western economic intercontinental new sovereign nation, where European nations and North American nations join together, submitting their own sovereignties to a new nation where former nations become essentially states within that new western alliance nation. It would be sold as a necessary union to turn around a collapsed economic system and save the world. This western nation would have its own new currency, replacing the Euro, the Pound, the U.S. and the Canadian Dollars with something else.
There would be massive new controls put in place requiring people of all these nations to follow new rules and adopt new technologies if they want to buy or sell anything. Privacy would be completely lost, replaced by rigid accountability and mandates on the people. The U.S. Constitution would be replaced by something else, a Western Alliance Constitution that all European and North American nations would adopt and submit to. In other words, the fulfillment of the wishes and desires of the Bilderberg Group, of the Council on Foreign Relations, of NAFTA, of the Trilateral Commission. In effect, the coming of a New World Order which is already being worked on behind the scenes by Central Planners. That, I believe is where we will find ourselves at the end of this catastrophic third leg of the Bear Market. Make no mistake, I personally do not want this to happen, but I do believe it is where we are headed nonetheless. To learn more about this, you can read Daniel Estulins fascinating book, The True Story of the Bilderberg Group, the North American Union edition, available at amazon.com .
How soon? Hard to say, but the best guess here is sometime between 2012 and 2016. Between now and then we should see things get progressively worse, in stairstep fashion. The Central Planners have blown a one-time opportunity they had to prevent a collapse by doing a massive tax rebate to all U.S. Households. They have wasted so much money, which has disintegrated into thin air, that a massive tax rebate would blow up the Federal Deficit to the point where Greeces sovereign debt problem would look like childs play. I guess what I am suggesting, is that the technical charts and patterns are warning that a complete economic collapse is approaching the point of inevitability.
I am fascinated by the timing suggested by the big picture charts. If you extend trendlines down from the top of the right shoulders of charts we show on pages 12 through 19, symmetrical with the left shoulder, you see markets fully collapse from 2012 through 2016ish. Amazingly, if you go to the History Channels website, you can order a ton of productions pointing out a myriad of scientific and prophetic sources from many different and independent origins suggesting major upheaval during this same period of time. Then, if you go into the Biblical scriptures, including the Old Testament prophecies, we find the possibility of economic and world calamity arriving at a time in the not too distant future as well.
Obama starts massive US Air-Sea-Marine build-up opposite Iran
Debeka
5/20/2010Debkafile's military sources report a decision by the Obama administration to boost US military strength in the Mediterranean and Persian Gulf regions in the short term with an extra air and naval strike forces and 6,000 Marine and sea combatants.
QUITE PLAUSIBLE, TO ME.
I think OThuga wants as many of our military out of CONUS as he can manage . . . under orders from his bosses . . .
well if this happens kiss your internet away, your Rush away, and don’t ever believe that stockpiling toliet paper and ammo is going to cut it.
On that thread, many are speculating it’s a build up to the November elections. He’s burnishing his defense bona-fides.
I hope so but I do think the scenario of the Amero is coming.
Could be.
Sigh.
It depends how bad things get. If things are bad enough, people will accept it. Google “burning platform”.
People might finally get a chance to use their Y2K preparation stocks.
Don't laugh, 50 years from now over 40% of the people Alive today in the USA will be dead...
And every single one of them will die within six months of their birthday.
Sad thing,really.
Wow.
Thanks for the ping!
Isn’t Robert Prechter also calling a deep stock market crash this year?
The daughter’s tin foil hat looks like a Kaiser Wilhelm helmet lol!
Anything's possible, I guess, but I've never seen any Biblical evidence that once everything collapses, like it is right now, that man will get everything better before the Antichrist comes on the scene.
The Antichrist rides in to save everyone's day, confirm peace between Israel and "many", and have all the answers to everyone's problems and by the time he arrives, the world will be clamoring for a savior.
I just don't see things getting better- only worse.
Gerald Celente devoted his entire spring 2010 Trends Research journal expounding upon why that very thing is likely to occur by 2012. I hope he is wrong, but he has a knack for predicting big events before they occur.
Anything's possible, I guess, but I've never seen any Biblical evidence that once everything collapses, like it is right now, that man will get everything better before the Antichrist comes on the scene.
Well, there's a whole lot of variability in that ... :-)
For example what is "collapsing" ... because I don't see that we're collapsing (not at this point in time, anyway ...). Does that mean that things are collapsing because of the fact that we have Obama in office? Well, the next President may be a Republican. So, does that mean things are getting better if that happens? You see what I mean, I hope.
Okay, let's say that "collapsing" means that we have to devalue our currency, and/or scrap it and we do that "Amero currency" that we've heard about. Is that a "collapse"? Well, it may have been if the US Dollar collapses and we have to form a new "North American currency"... but things will continue and go on anyway. Does that mean "collapse" or what?
Or perhaps, we "collapse" and our currency goes south, and we have to join with the European Union in order to survive (I've heard some calls for that in the past ... :-) ...). Does that mean "collapse" and will things continue and business keep being done after that?
But, let's say that we collapse so that the entire country divides up into warring sections and we revert back to some kind of early 1800s lifestyle here ... but the rest of the world keeps on going as it has. So, in that case, does our "collapse" do anything in regards to the EU and Israel? Some might say that Israel can't survive without the U.S., but I doubt that ... :-)
So, the U.S. might disappear from a collapse, but the rest of the world keeps right on going on ... and God's plan for Israel keeps right on going on, because the U.S. is not mentioned in the Bible. Thus our own collapse might not mean anything for what God has in store, except that the focus is now on Israel and the EU, instead of the U.S. being involved in things, worldwide.
Or another scenario, suppose we go into a "collapse" of having a Great Depression where the unemployment rate is 25% (like it was in the last one). And it takes several decades to get out of it (but even so, remember, that 75% of the workforce was still working during that time, too).
But, over in Europe, let's say that they go into some kind of "collapse" and the currency goes all to hell over there..., well, that might simply be the "mechanism" and "motivation" for them to finally integrate more solidly and form a tighter union than they have so far. It may be only a "mechanism" for further integration and nothing more and then once that happens, things get better.
Remember, that no matter what happens in the way of "collapse", or currencies becoming worthless or countries going out of existence -- all that happens is that things get "re-organized", new countries come into existence, and new currencies are formed, and we simply start the cycle over again. We don't disappear.
And..., just to show it here again, before I go into it, here's what I said about that ...
I think that by the time that the Antichrist shows up, things will be much better than now (at least at the beginning of his rule). Later on, though, things gets much worse ... :-) ... as the judgement of God comes down on him and those who follow him.
So, as I said there are many variables as to what can happen, but there is one thing that always happens, no matter what ... a country goes out of existence, another one pops up, or an adjacent country or power "takes over" in its place. A currency collapses and devalues beyond any use, then another currency is formed and it starts up on a new scale and a new backing.
It's all "cycles" (the same ones actually) over and over again, throughout history. The only thing that is going to stop the cycles from continuing is when God brings down His wrath at that point when the Antichrist declares himself to be God (at the midpoint of the Tribulation) and when the Messiah of Israel comes here, goes to war against all those opposed to God, and sets up His own one-world government over all nations. That's what stops the cycles -- and not some "humongous collapse" -- that doesn't stop the cycles... they'll just continue the "ups" and "downs" -- and what follows a "down" is another "up" ...
So, if we, in this country have some humongous collapse of society and our country -- all that will follow is a period of readjustment and then, another "up" ... that's all... and "up" will always follow a "down" -- and it will continue to be that way, until God intervenes directly in the Tribulation period, and changes it.
Now, that's from continuing history, as it's played out before. And there's nothing to indicate that it won't play out the very same way. In fact, it will play out the very same way no matter what -- a build-up period, riding high for a while, a decline, then a collapse, and the re-organization, and then another build-up period ... and so on.
But, from the Bible, we also see that when the Antichrist comes on the scene that Israel is at peace and is successful and is living in unwalled villages, living in peace and security, at that time. That's, to me ... is the Bible indicating something that is not in place now, and is "better" than what we see now.
New World Order requires money. Without money, I suspect the world governments will just go to war.
There's always money... it just changes forms. If an old currency devalues, then the government may "re-form" it and creaate a new one. That's all that happens. Debts are "written off", the currency is changed, new owners, new currency, start all over again ... :-)
It might be, but it wouldn’t be “the end of the world” ... :-)
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