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Customs commissioner neglected to file forms on household employees (Bersin)
Washington Post ^ | May 14, 2010 | Ed O'Keefe

Posted on 05/15/2010 8:04:51 AM PDT by AuntB

Edited on 05/15/2010 8:05:32 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Alan D. Bersin said Thursday he didn't know he's required by law to file paperwork verifying that his household employees were authorized to work in the United States.

Bersin told senators that he and his wife tracked the immigration status of a nanny, house cleaners and babysitters "on a piece of paper that was on file in our home."


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To: AuntB

sure, he’s totally ignorant of those laws


21 posted on 05/15/2010 8:37:12 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping List-freepmail me to be included or removed. <{{{><)
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To: the Real fifi

You are correct.

And you don’t ‘file’ an I-9 with anyone except yourself. You fill it out, you sign it, and the employee signs it, and you keep it. If the government asks to see it, you send them a copy.


22 posted on 05/15/2010 8:38:07 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: drpix

“Didn’t the family of Bersin’s wife make their millions from their LA sweetshops and the illegals they employed?”

I’m behind on the facts about this guy. Do you have that info?


23 posted on 05/15/2010 8:41:24 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: drpix
Didn’t the family of Bersin’s wife make their millions from their LA sweetshops and the illegals they employed?

Probably... Although his wife is now a Superior Court Judge.

Alan Bersin is being bandied for a possible challenge to City Attorney Mike Aguirre's reelection bid, many eyes are turning to his personal financial statement, on file with the San Diego County Regional Airport Authority, where he is chairman of the board. Married to superior court judge Lisa Foster, daughter of the late downtown property magnate and garment industry executive Stan Foster, Bersin lists an impressive inventory of real estate assets, many of which could raise conflict-of-interest issues should he manage to beat Aguirre.
From here.

24 posted on 05/15/2010 8:47:25 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: italianquaker

“Alan D. Bersin said Thursday he didn’t know he’s required by law to file paperwork”

If this is acceptible, then illegals could use the exact same excuse.


25 posted on 05/15/2010 8:49:18 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Starboard

He in charge of customs, this excuse is insulting


26 posted on 05/15/2010 8:52:24 AM PDT by italianquaker (obama all hat no cattle)
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To: italianquaker

Agree, its right up there with Geithner’s tax evasion. Republicans would be skewered for something like this. No excuses would be tolerated.


27 posted on 05/15/2010 8:55:27 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Alan D. Bersin said Thursday he didn't know he's required by law to file paperwork verifying that his household employees were authorized to work in the United States. Bersin told senators that he and his wife tracked the immigration status of a nanny, house cleaners and babysitters "on a piece of paper that was on file in our home."
I feel safer all of a sudden. Thanks AuntB.
28 posted on 05/15/2010 8:56:49 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: AuntB; raybbr
I finally found the article from the SanDiegoReader(2009) and here's an excerpt:
Alan Bersin has taken an interesting road to the border. But the saga begins long before he was born, with the great grandfather of his wife, Lisa Foster.

.....Isaac Ratner, a cap maker from New York... came to San Diego... in 1921, ...and established United Cap Works. San Diego was close to the border and filled with sunshine, cheap labor, and Navy contracts.
...Sons Abe and Nate joined him in the business...
...Abe’s daughter Pauline met Stanley Foster ...They married in 1954 ....where Stan worked his way up the ladder at Ratner Clothing....Stan Foster succeeded 64-year-old Abe Ratner as president

The Ratner company was a creature of the border. It built a 310,000-square-foot factory in Chula Vista, an easy commute from Tijuana for many of its workers. It also owned the Arizona Slack Co., which operated a plant just across the state border in Yuma, employing hundreds of Hispanic workers, and owned a warehouse in El Paso, Texas, opposite the Mexican city of Ciudad Juárez.

At its peak in the mid-1970s, Ratner Manufacturing, as the company came to be known, was said by San Diego Magazine to be the fifth-largest menswear maker in the country, employing 2500 people, with sales of $57 million.

In 1991,... Bersin met and married... Lisa Foster, a daughter of Stan and Pauline Foster...


29 posted on 05/15/2010 9:00:01 AM PDT by drpix
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To: drpix

Thank you!


30 posted on 05/15/2010 9:01:01 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: raybbr

Oops... That’s the same article you cited. The reporter did a great job on the family history.


31 posted on 05/15/2010 9:06:32 AM PDT by drpix
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To: drpix
It's not the same one. Yours has more detail on the family and the illegals. Good find.

Typical of this admin. Everyone's a piker, a crook or a scumbag.

32 posted on 05/15/2010 9:08:51 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: the Real fifi

This high powered lawyer didn’t know about an I9 form?

You mean he handled the payroll, workers comp, W4s, EIN, payroll, state agencies reporting, etc.... and never came across an I9?

Are we to believe that this guy thought that every person’s “right to work” status was so unimportant to the federal govt that they would forego official forms and paperwork? And that he just happened to “note” each employee’s status every year?


33 posted on 05/15/2010 9:13:45 AM PDT by cpanter
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To: cpanter

Read post 22.
In his position he should have known but this is peanuts. The I9 form is significant for large employers . For those hiring one or more part time or full time household employees, the filing out of this form and maintaining it seems et another piece of stupid make work.


34 posted on 05/15/2010 9:22:49 AM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: AuntB
I think he is lying. If I know you have to file a I-9 on EVERY employee he knows or SHOULD KNOW!

The federal government mails INSTRUCTIONS to employers every year. So, he is either paying her cash and/or not filing the proper payroll reports.

35 posted on 05/15/2010 9:27:56 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

Agreed.


36 posted on 05/15/2010 9:31:30 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: the Real fifi

Penalties

The IRCA includes penalties for I-9 noncompliance. According to the I-9 form, An employer who hires an unauthorized worker can be fined between $250 and $5,500 per worker. In addition, such an employer can be barred from federal government contracts for a year.

An employer who fails to keep proper records that I-9s are properly filed can be fined $110 per missing item for each form, up to $1100 per form, even if the employee is legally authorized to work in the US.

The Employment Eligibility Verification Form I-9 is a U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services form. It is used by an employer to verify an employee’s identity and to establish that the worker is eligible to accept employment in the United States.

The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (IRCA) required employers to verify that all newly-hired employees present “facially valid” documentation verifying the employee’s identity and his or her legal authorization to accept employment in the United States. The I-9 form or more properly the Employment Eligibility Verification Form is provided by the federal government for that purpose. Every employee hired after November 6, 1986 must complete an I-9 form at the time of hire. Employees must complete Section 1 of the form at the actual beginning of employment. The employer must complete Section 2 within three days of starting work. The employer is responsible for ensuring that the forms are completed properly, and in a timely manner.

Employment Eligibility Verification

Purpose of Form :

All U.S. employers must complete and retain a Form I-9 for each individual they hire for employment in the United States. This includes citizens and noncitizens. On the form, the employer must examine the employment eligibility and identity document(s) an employee presents to determine whether the document(s) reasonably appear to be genuine and relate to the individual and record the document information on the Form I-9. The list of acceptable documents can be found on the last page of the form.

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-9.pdf


37 posted on 05/15/2010 9:34:15 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

And how many employers of household employees follow this? And how many ever faced prosecution?

It’s one of the many ridiculous things that are imposed upon householders for no apparent reason.


38 posted on 05/15/2010 9:41:06 AM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: the Real fifi

I won’t argue the merits of its worthiness. I agree.

I’ll just say that something smells for this reason: He didn’t know about the form when he hired these people, but he intuitively gathered the right information anyway. He’s just that smart I guess.

In my state, TN, he would have had to register each employee with the state labor dept as well as the state’s “new hire” agency. Just more simple forms.

If he was clueless about an I9... wonder what else he didn’t do?


39 posted on 05/15/2010 9:45:28 AM PDT by cpanter
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To: AuntB

Bersin, “Yes I have their names right here. The maids were Martha Washingtonzalez and Abigail Adamsosa. The handyman was Ulysses S. Grantirez. They showed me their Social Security Cards.”


40 posted on 05/15/2010 9:47:25 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Now can we forget about that old rum-runner Joe Kennedy and his progeny of philandering drunks?)
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