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Woman's hospital memories contradict "birthers"
The Daily Republic ^ | May 15, 2010 | Ross Dolan

Posted on 05/14/2010 11:02:15 PM PDT by Smokeyblue

U.S. House candidate Chris Nelson earlier this week dismissed “birther” statements attributed to him and said he believes Barack Obama is a natural-born U.S. citizen and the legitimately elected president of the United States.

So does Eleanor Nordyke — and according to her, she should know.

Nordyke, 82, of Honolulu, Hawaii, says that on Aug. 4, 1961, she was in labor with her twin daughters Susan and Gretchen at Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital — the same place Barack Obama was being born. The hospital has since been renamed Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women and Children.

“Birthers” is the term given to those who believe Obama was not born in the United States and does not, therefore, meet a primary qualification for the presidency.

Nordyke, in a Friday telephone interview with The Daily Republic, said the birthers have consistently discounted her testimony. She is certain they are wrong.

(Excerpt) Read more at mitchellrepublic.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: article2section1; birthcertificate; certifigate; eligibility; hawaii; honolulu; ineligible; naturalborncitizen; nordyke; obama; usurper
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To: little jeremiah

I think they intentionally misquoted her because she’s 82 and they figure she probably won’t A) read it on the internet or B) Raise any kind of fuss about being misquoted.

Seems like they might be taking advantage of the elderly to try to give credibility to those birth announcements.

Wonder why? Someone must be getting close.


161 posted on 05/17/2010 12:26:47 AM PDT by MissTickly
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To: MissTickly

Hiyah, MissTickly.

I detect that they are getting a little desperate. It is not going away and they cannot hide everything, and what they have hidden cannot remain hidden forever. Too many people know stuff.


162 posted on 05/17/2010 12:36:52 AM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: butterdezillion

Thank YOU!


163 posted on 05/17/2010 12:37:18 AM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: tutstar; LucyT; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; PhilDragoo; Candor7; rxsid; MeekOneGOP; ...
Ping..................

Woman's hospital memories contradict "birthers"

Where was this woman two years ago? I wonder, how much Nordyke was paid.

Thank you, tutstar.

164 posted on 05/17/2010 4:48:30 AM PDT by melancholy
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To: butterdezillion

He knows this but he’s trolling again.


165 posted on 05/17/2010 5:55:46 AM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: BuckeyeTexan; LucyT
Yes, that's what I'm saying - if the scenario I posed is accurate and I'm not swearing that it is, only that it is possible based on my personal experience.

Random speculation: the last resort of the person with no actual evidence.
166 posted on 05/17/2010 6:25:09 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Smokeyblue
Just more diversion...I still don't know how anyone elected in office reconciles the fact that Obama’s father was a British Citizn and there is no way to convey natural born citizenship status to Obama because of that one fact.

Even Ginsburg on the Supreme Court agrees with that.

What a travesty just another fine example of how the Progressives trample our Constitution, create precedent and get away with breaking the law. If they can succeed with putting an ineligible person in the White house there will be no stopping where they go!

167 posted on 05/17/2010 6:29:26 AM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: butterdezillion
The father is dead. We don’t know if the mother is alive or not, because people have been putting false information about names associated with the COLB and birth anouncements on places such as ancestry.com. We’ve found 2 instances of false information regarding names distantly associated with the birth announcements.

The cardinal rule in any genealogical work is to never, ever believe anything someone else swears is the truth. Don't bother with those sites unless you're carting around a truckload of salt. It's just too easy to lie on the internet.

168 posted on 05/17/2010 6:31:32 AM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: jarofants; Smokeyblue
The illegal alien and usurper "occupying" OUR House fixed that effectively when he paid John Roberts a "courtesy" visit, with no "reporters" on January 14, 2009???

Six days later John Roberts couldn't even get the swearing in oath straight out of his mouth!!!

169 posted on 05/17/2010 6:40:45 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: little jeremiah

That’s just it, there are lots of people out there who know the truth. They can’t keep them all quiet for the duration. People talk. They can’t keep secrets. It’s that old saying - he tells someone, then that person tells someone, and so on. I’ll give them credit. The minions have done a good job so far but it’s only because most people are too involved with their own private lives to realize there’s a big world going on out there.


170 posted on 05/17/2010 6:41:39 AM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: Smokeyblue

This is a stupid article. I happen to believe that Obama *was* born in Hawaii as is claimed, but this woman has no input on that question. It says she never even met Dunham at the hospital. Her opinion on what happened is worth about as much as mine is.


171 posted on 05/17/2010 6:48:57 AM PDT by Sloth (Civil disobedience? I'm afraid only the uncivil kind is going to cut it this time.)
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To: Talisker; Smokeyblue

Which means we are NOT “Birthers,” but rather “Constitutionalists” asking valid questions!!!


172 posted on 05/17/2010 6:56:50 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: little jeremiah; highlander_UW

I though that title was put on a Hollyweird actor from “Pretty Woman???


173 posted on 05/17/2010 7:02:42 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: butterdezillion
The father is dead. We don’t know if the mother is alive or not, because people have been putting false information about names associated with the COLB and birth anouncements on places such as ancestry.com.

We’ve found 2 instances of false information regarding names distantly associated with the birth announcements.

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Dead little girl theory: I don't quite understand this little girl died theory.

1. How do you know it was a little girl? Where did you get your information?

2. If the little girl died at the hospital, how come she got a number? Are you saying that the little girl died AFTER she left the hospital? How long after leaving the hospital did she die, if she died AFTER leaving the hospital?

3. To me, the obvious followup question would be this one: If you know that Obama stole a dead little girl's number, then what is the little girl's name for all the world to see?

4. You know that I enjoy reading your messages, but if you don't have a name, I have trouble accepting your dead little girl theory, unless you go into more detail why I should believe your little girl theory.

174 posted on 05/17/2010 8:39:40 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: jarofants
Lets say he was born in Hawaii. His father was a not born in the U.S. so he is not a natural born citizen.

It would not matter where his father was born, if he was a naturalized US Citizen at the time of Junior's birth.

But he wasn't. Nor was he ever.

175 posted on 05/17/2010 10:02:10 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: john mirse

The announcement of the death was in the newspaper.

If a child takes one breath of air before dying they are issued a certificate of live birth. This girl died the next day - at which time she would have been issued a death certificate. I’m not sure, but I think the hospitals provided death notices to the newspapers.

I have the name of the little girl as it probably appeared on the birth certificate. Ancestry.com has a different name for her. I don’t know if that’s disinformation or if the name was changed somehow, or what. I’m not going to say the name at this time because I don’t want information to be scrubbed or altered, although it may be too late already.

We already know the certificate number belongs to somebody else so the question was just who it belonged to. I’m pretty sure this is who it belonged to. If the HDOH obeyed their rules regarding non-certified abbreviated certificates I could give you the proof... but we know the HDOH will never do that unless a subpoena or court order is involved. So that’s where this road takes us.


176 posted on 05/17/2010 11:41:42 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Kahuna
Granny was a first class scammer.
177 posted on 05/17/2010 11:47:20 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (If you can read this you are the resistance. (Oh and the GOP can bite me for $$$))
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To: butterdezillion
have the name of the little girl as it probably appeared on the birth certificate. Ancestry.com has a different name for her.

I don’t know if that’s disinformation or if the name was changed somehow, or what. I’m not going to say the name at this time because I don’t want information to be scrubbed or altered, although it may be too late already.

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Girl's name: If you want to help us get to the bottom of this Obama birth certificate mess, I think you should give us the name you have so that relatives or friends of this poor little girl can say that you have your facts right or not.

I'm sorry, but by keeping the girl's name to yourself, you don't give the rest of us the chance to do further and deeper investigations concerning the stamped number on top of Obama's birth certificate, a number you say is fake.

My point is this: You or anyone else should not keep any important information about Obama's fake or real birth certificate to yourself. Put it out there so the rest of us can look at it and do more research on it. Thanks.

178 posted on 05/17/2010 12:48:26 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: Smokeyblue; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; opentalk; RobinMasters; Beckwith; Frantzie; thouworm; ...
Nothing new in this interview that Mrs. Nordyke didn't state before in her earlier interview with the Hawaii newspaper.

She has no recollection of meeting Stanley Ann Dunham around the time she gave birth. She became acquainted Obama's family only years later when her daughters attended school with young Barry.

Given these circumstances, she is an ideal propaganda agent for the Obama machine now. But her statement does not establish that Obama was born at Kapiolani Hospital. Only a bona fide Birth Certificate could do that.

179 posted on 05/17/2010 1:06:26 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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Excerpt:

"That’s why 0bama’s “date filed” is the revealing item.

"It messes up what would otherwise have been a really handy substitution between 0bama and this little girl, since she was born at the time and place where he wanted to claim he was born and had the birth certificate to match that time and place.

"Too bad (for 0bama) that he screwed up the “date filed”. . . . "It reveals all."

. . . . Check out # 127.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2513997/posts?page=127#127

[Thanks, urtax$@work.]

180 posted on 05/17/2010 1:14:57 PM PDT by LucyT
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