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Nevada's new educational solution: Fewer school days!
Write on Nevada ^ | 13 May 2010 | Victor Joecks

Posted on 05/13/2010 1:09:23 PM PDT by NevadaPolicyResearchInstitute

Educational achievement in Nevada is dismal. Our high school dropout rate is the worst in the nation. "Nevada's 4th and 8th graders placed no higher than 43rd in math or reading on any of the most recent National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) exams."

This poor performance exists despite nearly tripling inflation-adjusted, per-pupil spending over the last 50 years.

So naturally, the Legislative Committee on Education decided yesterday to move forward on a proposal to eliminate up to 10 school days a year. Not. A. Joke.

The committee did decide to recommend that the 2011 Legislature change state laws to give school districts the flexibility to shorten their school years.

The state now mandates a school year of 180 days.

The proposal would allow the state superintendent of public instruction to allow schools to cut as many as 10 days in times of "economic hardship."

Joyce Haldeman, associate superintendent of community and government relations for the Clark County School District, said the proposal could save jobs for teachers and other personnel.

If unions do not agree to "shared sacrifices," or reducing pay, school personnel would have to be laid off, Haldeman said. But the Clark County district can secure $9 million for each day it cuts from the year, and those funds could be used to avoid layoffs.

Please remind me again why we fund schools: Is it to educate children or to fund jobs for adults? This story makes me think some Nevada legislators believe it's the latter.

There are proven alternatives as well. At that hearing, NPRI's Patrick Gibbons presented 28 different recommendations for reform. And reforms like the ones he presented have a proven track record of success. Look no further than Florida, which implemented a host of free-market education reforms in 1998.

Florida vs. Nevada in 4th grade reading scores

Florida's low-income students vs. all Nevada students in 4th grade reading scores

Florida's Hispanic students vs. all Nevada students in 4th grade reading scores

Florida's African-American students vs. all Nevada students in 4th grade reading scores


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: education; nevada; reform; teacherunions

1 posted on 05/13/2010 1:09:23 PM PDT by NevadaPolicyResearchInstitute
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To: NevadaPolicyResearchInstitute

Now hold on there, before we jump to a wrong conclusion, do you really think spending more time in public “schools” is going to help?

Seems to me the more time people spend in “educational institutions” the dumber they get.


2 posted on 05/13/2010 1:12:10 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: NevadaPolicyResearchInstitute

I think 4 days weeks would be the best option. Who concentrated on Fridays in school anyway....lol.


3 posted on 05/13/2010 1:13:24 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Owl_Eagle

For many public schools,
the students would be better educated by NOT attending.

So maybe they’re on to something here.


4 posted on 05/13/2010 1:13:33 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: NevadaPolicyResearchInstitute

If you increase a budget geometrically and there is an inverse relationship to results, perhaps it is time to boot some NEA arse out of the hallowed halls.

Cutting instruction time to zero would not mean a zero educational achievement rate, rather parents will simply find other avenues to edumacate their whelps productively.


5 posted on 05/13/2010 1:13:41 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: NevadaPolicyResearchInstitute

10 less days of brainwashing. whatever.


6 posted on 05/13/2010 1:15:03 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: napscoordinator

I thought Obama wanted kids in school 6 days a week and 2 hours longer every day?


7 posted on 05/13/2010 1:15:47 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: GeronL

Yeah he said that but he was snorting “it” up.


8 posted on 05/13/2010 1:18:47 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: NevadaPolicyResearchInstitute

Perhaps the idea of education for “everybody” is a false premise.


9 posted on 05/13/2010 1:23:43 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: NevadaPolicyResearchInstitute

Who is willing to address directly the fact that the highest number of ‘students’ in the classroom are Hispanic- legal & illegal who do NOT speak English??? Reno & surrounding areas & Carson City.

Gang problems are also part of the problem. The kids are pressured to enter gangs, and many parts of the area are downright unsafe.

A caller to a local radio show -Bill Manders- last year called with his experience the day before.

He had to take his 3rd or 4th grade daughter to school late & he took her all the way to her classroom. Something he had never done before-maybe Mom was sick.
Anyway- when he loked inside the room, he realized immediately that his daughter was the ONLY white kid in the room. After a few quiet words with the teacher, he learned that his daughter was the ONLY one in the room who could read & write English.

He was stunned.

He informed Bill Manders that he & his wife were auditing their budget. They were putting their only daughter into a private school somehow-someway. Period.


10 posted on 05/13/2010 1:30:01 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: NevadaPolicyResearchInstitute

Who is willing to address directly the fact that the highest number of ‘students’ in the classroom are Hispanic- legal & illegal who do NOT speak English??? Reno & surrounding areas & Carson City.

Gang problems are also part of the problem. The kids are pressured to enter gangs, and many parts of the area are downright unsafe.

A caller to a local radio show -Bill Manders- last year called with his experience the day before.

He had to take his 3rd or 4th grade daughter to school late & he took her all the way to her classroom. Something he had never done before-maybe Mom was sick.
Anyway- when he loked inside the room, he realized immediately that his daughter was the ONLY white kid in the room. After a few quiet words with the teacher, he learned that his daughter was the ONLY one in the room who could read & write English.

He was stunned.

He informed Bill Manders that he & his wife were auditing their budget. They were putting their only daughter into a private school somehow-someway. Period.


11 posted on 05/13/2010 1:30:42 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: NevadaPolicyResearchInstitute

The high-water mark for standardized test scores occurred around 1965, when there were about 165 days in the school year in most states.
The baby-sitting, children-feeding stations that we call “schools” do not teach as much in 185-190 now as schools taught in 20-25 fewer days then. But they do serve a lot more meals, and that is what their mission seems to be.


12 posted on 05/13/2010 1:32:50 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Owl_Eagle

If they would just add another “0” to the number of days that could be skipped, it would do a great deal to reform education in Nevada and serve as a model for the country ;-)


13 posted on 05/13/2010 1:48:52 PM PDT by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: ridesthemiles

My sister’s daughter had the same experience. Her 1st grader this year was the only English speaking child in the class. and this was in an area of Vegas that is not what is considered “mexico” by the residents.

My kids both attended public school in vegas. They both have attended college, my son just graduated and my daughter is finishing her freshman year.

they were fortunate to have been in schools where the teachers were experienced long time faculty at the schools they attended.

By the time they finished, the majority of their classmates had dropped out or obtained a GED.


14 posted on 05/13/2010 1:57:09 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: GeronL

Ha! He does not know what he wants. He can’t keep anything straight anymore.


15 posted on 05/13/2010 2:42:13 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: NevadaPolicyResearchInstitute

The less time our nation’s children spend in public schools, the better.


16 posted on 05/13/2010 3:53:52 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: NevadaPolicyResearchInstitute

Sounds good to me. Cut the school year by at least a month.


17 posted on 05/13/2010 3:55:21 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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