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Anonymous letter explaining cross theft
Victor Valley Daily Press/Desert Dispatch ^ | May 12, 2010 | From staff report

Posted on 05/12/2010 12:51:32 PM PDT by Excellence

Note: An anonymous caller, claiming to know the details of the theft of the Mojave Cross, called the Desert Dispatch Tuesday afternoon, saying he was not directly responsible for the cross’s theft, but knew who was. While the claims could not be verified, the caller, who identifies himself as a veteran, seems likely connected to the theft. Below are key points of a written explanation provided by the caller.

• The cross has been carefully preserved.

• A small non-sectarian monument was brought to place at the site but technical difficulties prevented this from happening at the time the cross was moved to its new location.

• The cross was erected illegally on public land in 1998 by a private individual. Since then the government has actively worked to promote the continued existence of the cross, even as it excluded other monuments from differing religions. This favoritism and exclusion clearly violates the establishment clause of the US Constitution.

• Anthony Kennedy desecrated and marginalized the memory and sacrifice of all those non-Christians that died in WWI when he wrote: 'Here one Latin cross in the desert evokes far more than religion. It evokes thousands of small crosses in foreign fields marking the graves of Americans who fell in battles — battles whose tragedies are compounded if the fallen are forgotten.'

• Justice Kennedy’s words in particular and others like them from the other Justices caused me to act.

• Discrimination in any form is intolerable, as is hatred.

• Discrimination or hatred based upon religion should be despised by all Americans.

• Despite what many people are saying, this act was definitively not anti-Christian. It was instead anti-discrimination.

• If an appropriate and permanent non-sectarian memorial is placed at the site the cross will be immediately returned.

• Alternatively, if a place can be found that memorializes the Christian Veterans of WWI that is not on public land the Cross will promptly be forwarded with care and reverence for installation at the private site.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: constitution; mojavecross; whatgoesaround; willcomearound
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To: Excellence
Discrimination in any form is intolerable, as is hatred.

In the world of the liberal, this is true. In their world, discrimination is "intolerable" for every walk of life. Pedophiles, rapists, murderers, cannibals, the slothful...pretty much everyone except Christians and heterosexuals. So I'm not buying that the action these liberals took was a promotion of Christianity in any way.

21 posted on 05/12/2010 1:09:13 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Logical me

Yes his “facts” are all wrong. The land is not public land and the cross has stood there for about 75 years. They are hateful criminals who desecrated a war memorial, it is them who are in the wrong here.


22 posted on 05/12/2010 1:09:46 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Excellence

“Discrimination or hatred based upon religion should be despised by all Americans.”

rather ironic, no?


23 posted on 05/12/2010 1:10:38 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: ZULU

Interesting take. Brilliant, in fact.


24 posted on 05/12/2010 1:10:50 PM PDT by Excellence (Meet your new mother-in-law, the United States Government.)
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To: Excellence

I guess the institutions of a representative government are obselete in this brave new “alice in wonderland” liberal “utopic dictatorship”. Why let facts get in the way?

I mean honestly, a cross in the desert?? really? I reckon next you’ll want to wear old glory to an american taxpayer funded school!


25 posted on 05/12/2010 1:11:03 PM PDT by swamprebel (Carbon molecules are an endangered species, let the liberals chase them with butterfly nets.)
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To: Excellence
If he knows who did this, he needs to be rounded up and questions.

Taking the law into one's own hands cannot be tolerated.
And displaying a religious symbol of any religion on public land is not per se illegal or unConstitutional.

Having said that, I do believe the perps, criminals though they be, have one valid point. Many of those who fought bravely in WWII, and in all our wars, were not Christians. Think of the Americans of Japanese descent who, though illegally interned in concentration camps during WWII, volunteered to fight in places like Italy, and those units had the highest record of valor among their compatriots.

Thomas Paine, an atheist, played a key role in rallying Americans to the cause of Revolution. People like him should be respected.

I wonder what religious sect was so ticked off that they would steal that cross? They need to grow up, to say the least.

I think the cross should be restored to its original place, on public land. And if any other religious or atheistic group wants to place a memorial to those who fought and sacrificed, let them do it - as long as it is not overtly offensive to any other religion.
The perps need to face a judge, however, for the crime of theft.

26 posted on 05/12/2010 1:13:24 PM PDT by ARepublicanForAllReasons (President Zero, walking in the footsteps of Hugo Chavez)
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To: Excellence
"Discrimination in any form is intolerable, as is hatred."

Isn't it funny how their hatred for Christianty forced them to discriminate by tearing down the cross?

27 posted on 05/12/2010 1:13:32 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: ARepublicanForAllReasons

They will face more than simple theft! This as I understand was designed a war memorial and carries federal counts for defacing.


28 posted on 05/12/2010 1:15:02 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Excellence

Wonder if they are going to talk to Michael Weinstein? He’s that former Air Force guy who is a ringleader in this kind of thing. Was also part of the lawsuit to remove it.

Heard him interviewed on the radio, sounds about like his style. That legalistic language,,”carefully preserved, alternative monument”,, etc.


29 posted on 05/12/2010 1:16:38 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: subterfuge
"Discrimination in any form is intolerable, as is hatred."

Except for discrimination against Christian symbols on private land.

That kind of discrimination we're OK with...

30 posted on 05/12/2010 1:17:08 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: RedMDer; chris_bdba
Ok, so it's PRIVATE land. That changes my analysis, but just a little. A simple case of theft, and perhaps desecration of a religious monument.

Land is cheap in the desert. Let this group buy their own parcel and erect whatever monument they want! (After serving their sentences)

31 posted on 05/12/2010 1:20:05 PM PDT by ARepublicanForAllReasons (President Zero, walking in the footsteps of Hugo Chavez)
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To: Excellence
Discrimination or hatred based upon religion should be despised by all Americans.

Before we get all 'kumbayah' over this....let us define "religion"...shall we?

Is Satanism a religion? Is Islam a religion? Is a dogma or set of beliefs that espouses hatred and discrimination a religion?

32 posted on 05/12/2010 1:23:05 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: Excellence
A self-appointed SCOTUS of One.

The hubris and narcissism of the Left knows no bounds.

33 posted on 05/12/2010 1:27:14 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ARepublicanForAllReasons
(After serving their sentences)

I would only add... After serving their very long sentences.

34 posted on 05/12/2010 1:28:46 PM PDT by RedMDer (Throw them all out in 2010... Forward with Confidence! Forward!)
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To: subterfuge

I despise thieves and tyrants. I guess that makes me wrong. /s


35 posted on 05/12/2010 1:30:04 PM PDT by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
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To: chris_bdba

Can he be charged with a hate crime? Seems like he should be.


36 posted on 05/12/2010 1:30:18 PM PDT by chesley (Lib arguments are neither factual, logical, rational, nor reasonable. They are, however, creative.)
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To: ARepublicanForAllReasons
I wonder what religious sect was so ticked off that they would steal that cross?

$10 wager, loser gives $10 to FR.

When the perps are found out, they are not of a 'religous sect'. If they are, I pay, if they aren't, you pay.

Deal?

37 posted on 05/12/2010 1:31:23 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: Balding_Eagle

It’s the Amish (again)


38 posted on 05/12/2010 1:36:32 PM PDT by ARepublicanForAllReasons (President Zero, walking in the footsteps of Hugo Chavez)
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To: RedMDer

Yes the charges they face on the federal level as I understand it carries something like a 15 year sentace. At least that is what Megyn Kelly on Fox said earlier.


39 posted on 05/12/2010 1:38:01 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: RedMDer
I would only add... After serving their very long sentences.

Hey, I believe they deserve justice - just'as many years as the law allows!

40 posted on 05/12/2010 1:38:53 PM PDT by ARepublicanForAllReasons (President Zero, walking in the footsteps of Hugo Chavez)
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