It is not a forgery. The state of Hawaii recognize Obama as being born in Hawaii. There was a birth certificate turned into the state of Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961. The question is was it turned in by a hospital or was it turned in by some relative, most likely his grandmother who is an RN.
If it wasn’t a forgery then why didn’t it note the amendment that the HDOH has indicated was made in 2006 - since state law and DOH rules say that the amendment is required to be noted on any genuine long-form or COLB?
Why was it given a number 3 days later than the Nordyke twins’ but the number is later than theirs? Okubo has ruled out the explanations of pre-numbered certificates at the hospitals and a 3-day processing wait for different piles of BC’s at the state registrar’s office. Since those explanations are ruled out, what is your explanation?
Also, the state of Hawaii says that Hawaii does not vouch for anything that is on an amended birth certificate. Fukino’s statement was that they have multiple birth records for Obama and at least one of them claimed that he was born in Hawaii. For her to say anything more than that is forbidden by Hawaii law because the BC is amended.
The Factcheck COLB is the only indication we have of any date that a birth certificate was submitted to the State of Hawaii, and it claims that it was submitted on Aug 8, 1961. But that date would rule out a Kapiolani birth (which Fukino just wrongly claimed that Fukino had publicly claimed) because Kapiolani submitted their BC’s to the state registrar on Friday. If Obama was born at Kapiolani then his BC should have been delivered to the state registrar’s office and received a number on the same day as the Nordyke twins’, since he was born Friday after office hours and the Nordykes were born the next day. Both should have been delivered to the state registrar the following Friday - Aug 11, 1961. The Nordyke certificates were delivered that day, but Obama’s wasn’t. Even though Obama’s was given a number 3 days earlier than the Nordykes’, his number was 2 later than theirs.
Obama’s grandmother was not a registered nurse. She was a bank executive.
Really? First I've heard this. Do you have links?
Did you even look at it? According to the info on the CoLB, the long form was turned into the state on August 8, 1961, not Aug 4. The date of birth on it is Aug. 4. But the sequence number is higher than those of the Nordyke twins, whose *long form* certificates show they were turned in to the state on Aug. 11, 1961.
I thought his grandmother was a bank manager? Doesn't mean she couldn't have turned in a fraudulent long form, anyone could, although a relative would be better than just some random person.
The fact that Obummer used a photoshopped document during the 2008 election is reason enough for him to be removed from office. “THE” specific document which Cooper was referring to which Obummer uploaded to fact check.org is a photoshop. It doesn't matter what is in the so called files in HI.
Obummer needs to be removed for a host of reasons...2 of which include he uploaded a forged photoshopped document to fact check.org during the election and that he is a dual citizen with mixed loyalties.
He is loyal to Indonesia/his muslim heritage and England/Kenya, his Dad's heritage. Obviously he isn't loyal to America's heritage from his mother's side, he hates America and sets out to destroy our way of life everyday...it's obvious he has loyalties outside of our nation.
First, if the FactCheck COLB online image is not a forgery, how do you refute the evidence given by Polarik here?
Second, the state of Hawaii did not recognize Obama as being born in Hawaii in any court of law, which is the only place that it would count. Typically, the manner in which this type of question is proven is by the production of a long form birth certificate and/or eyewitness testimony to the birth in a court of law under penalty of perjury. Otherwise any recognition is meaningless from a legal perspective, which for the purposes of qualification to the office of president under the Constitution is the only perspective that is meaningful. No Hawaii official has produced a long form birth certificate to a court of law nor has any Hawaii state official given any eyewitness testimony under penalty of perjury in a court of law. Unless one can cite the production of a long form birth certificate produced as evidence in a court of law or eyewitness testimony given under penalty of perjury in a court of law, one can make such a statement, but it is not verifiable, and so rather immaterial to the discussion. Your law is wrong.
Third, even if the state of Hawaii recognized Obama as being born in Hawaii in a court of law, it does not necessarily follow that a random image published on the web is not a forgery. In other words, the statements that "the FactCheck COLB online image is a forgery," and "the state of Hawaii recognized Obama as being born in Hawaii in a court of law" are not mutually exclusive. If your second statement is intended to prove that the first statement is true, your logic is wrong.
Fourth, there is a grammar mistake in the statement "The state of Hawaii recognize Obama as being born in Hawaii." Here is a test for you, Always Right: can you identify where your grammar is wrong?
It is a FACT that in the early 60’s all you needed was a relative to say you were born there and that was good enough, all you had to say was that you had a home birth!
LOL, I just wonder if you made up your tag name for these words, hmmmm
Listen ALL, TOOT is a RN!!!
Obama's grandmother was a nurse? I thought she was a bank executive.
> “It is not a forgery.” <
I just finished my yard work for the week... it’s hot and sunny here in the Piedmont Region just north of Raleigh. I’m enjoying a most excellent Brown Ale... “Newcastle”... and it’s deelish!
Now may I ask: Where the heck you’ve been? And what the heck are you smoking or drinking? It’s got to be alot stronger than “Newcastle.”
Geesh!