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US Catholic church attacks 'draconian' Arizona law
AFP ^ | April 28,2010 | (AFP)

Posted on 04/28/2010 4:29:56 PM PDT by NoLibZone

The US Catholic church on Tuesday condemned Arizona's "draconian" new immigration law, saying it would alienate immigrant communities across the United States.

"This new law, although limited to the State of Arizona, could have impact throughout the nation in terms of how members of our immigrant communities are both perceived and treated," Bishop John Wester said in a statement issued on behalf of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB).

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; arizona; illegals; immigration; sb1070
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To: babygene

ditto


61 posted on 04/28/2010 6:26:36 PM PDT by ak267
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To: All

Excuse me bishop, but this is the realm of ceasar.


62 posted on 04/28/2010 6:28:52 PM PDT by ak267
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To: NoLibZone

Ugh sometimes I regret being Catholic.

The “immigrant communities” in the US are fine. I get the whole “human rights” angle of the Church, but they need to immigrate LEGALLY!!!

That pesky little “render unto Caesar” thing.....


63 posted on 04/28/2010 6:29:48 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Eschew Socialism!)
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To: ansel12

Of course it bothers me. But unfortunately the bishops don’t listen to me.

If you look at history, virtually all of the Catholics in America were Democrats in the early days, because most of them were Irish or Italian or Polish or other ethnic minorities, and most were discriminated against by the WASP establishment. Most of them were working class, and many belonged to unions.

But the Dem party started to change, and became more interested in things like abortion than in the rights of workers in any meaningful sense. Gradually, Catholics began to go over to the Republican side after the passage of Roe v. Wade. From being maybe 90% Dems, Catholics gradually shifted to something like 50-50. And studies show that those Catholics who go to Mass regularly are much more likely to vote pro-life, i.e. Republican.

The presence of dissenters in the Church after Vatican 2 complicated matters. But on the whole, Catholics are more and more disenchanted with the Democrats.

McCain was a lousy candidate, having insulted both Catholics and Evangelicals in 2000 and then again in 2008. And Obama managed to pull the wool over a lot of people’s eyes. Still, he only got a marginal majority of the Catholic vote, largely because McCain refused to attack him on the abortion business, and the press covered it up.

It would be a big mistake to write off either Evangelicals OR Catholics. Conservatives need both in order to win. And we can hope to continue educating Catholics on what the Dem party now stands for, and thus to continue moving them over toward the conservative side where, frankly, they belong.


64 posted on 04/28/2010 6:38:13 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: NoLibZone

It is this kind of crap that really pi$$es me off.

LLS


65 posted on 04/28/2010 6:39:47 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: NoLibZone

Here we go again, they’re being called immigrants once again.


66 posted on 04/28/2010 7:23:01 PM PDT by Hillbillary (I know how to deal with Communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


67 posted on 04/28/2010 7:29:25 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Illegal is a Crime, it is not a Race ~)
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To: Emmett McCarthy
It should be, “they can kiss my royal IRISH ass and I’m a Catholic” - is how My Dad would have put it so I will do so for him.

I'll salute a Wild Irish Rose to that.

68 posted on 04/28/2010 7:32:20 PM PDT by Hillbillary (I know how to deal with Communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: ansel12
The Protestant vote did go solidly for McCain, the Catholic vote went solidly for Obama.

We might have an argument if you had actually read, and actually responded, to my post.

Those who do not attend mass weekly are not Catholics, however they may self identify to exit pollsters. Among those Catholics who actually are Catholics -- that is, fulfill their weekly obligation -- McCain won by nine points.

More to the point, the people being maligned on this forum as being no better than the US Catholic Episcopate are solid conservatives and fellow FReepers. They take the Apostles' Creed every week, and they take it seriously, so baiting them on this forum -- or any conservative venue -- is stupid.

You want to talk about peripheral issues, fine. New Immigrants voted for big government; nothing surprising or new. Roosevelt fooled a lot of people -- including by his own admission my Dad, who was young and foolish at the time.

Here are four reliable Catholic votes: Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and Alito. Know your FRiends.

69 posted on 04/28/2010 7:57:04 PM PDT by FredZarguna ("I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.")
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To: FredZarguna

Sorry but those people that you deny, are Catholics, you try to thread so many needles, that it is clear you just want to sell an agenda, your efforts are what people on the street call a con man’s rap.


70 posted on 04/28/2010 8:02:41 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney-"I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there")
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To: NoLibZone
Why does the Catholic Church so often work against Conservatives/Republicans/Patriots in America?

Every week there is a new story about the Vatican, the Pope, or some Bishops siding with the environmentalists, the UN, the anti-Americans, the anti-war loons, with the healthcare bill, with the open boarders crowd, Catholic colleges asking liberals to speak, Catholic nuns endorsing Obamacare.

I just goes on and on.

There is just too much evidence that they enable, encourage, and agitate for enemies of this nation.

71 posted on 04/28/2010 8:10:34 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: Cicero
It would be a big mistake to write off either Evangelicals OR Catholics. Conservatives need both in order to win.

That is weird phrasing, I used the word Protestants, but if you want to narrow it down to Evangelicals, they are the most conservative people in America, why would they want to "write" themselves off?

Catholics have not become a 50/50 vote.

McCain did great with Protestants and won Evangelicals by a HUGE margin, and Catholics did not vote "marginally" for Obama, it was a 54% to 45% Obama run away.

72 posted on 04/28/2010 8:12:42 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney-"I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there")
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To: NoLibZone
I just erased my comment. Suffice it to say, I'm rather upset at these idiots.

Nam Vet

73 posted on 04/28/2010 8:15:47 PM PDT by Nam Vet (Are you better off than you were 4 trillion dollars ago?)
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To: NoLibZone

So the church thinks it’s OK to steal my money to give to a thief. Where is that in the bible?


74 posted on 04/28/2010 8:16:26 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Have you donated to Free Republic yet? If not you are a Freeploader)
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To: goat granny

Cardinal Roger Mahony
is the said idiot! He is in bed with socialist/marxists. He has been a supporter of them for a very long time. He has been destroying the Catholic Mass and promoting the “social justice” agenda. check out this video on you tube and spread the video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1Mjpmsuu9c


75 posted on 04/28/2010 9:39:03 PM PDT by michellecalifornia
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To: NoLibZone; All
The Catholic church ALWAYS backs illegals being in America. Why? Because their money in the Catholic coffers is the only thing Keeping the Catholic Church going in America. Most American Catholics quit supporting "the church" when the world found out that the Cahtolic Priesthood was queer & pedophile infested.
76 posted on 04/28/2010 10:01:33 PM PDT by no dems (Palin / Rubio 2012)
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To: Hillbillary

When they start calling them refugees, then does the UN get involved? This nightmare could turn into a sequel.


77 posted on 04/28/2010 11:10:55 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should. Samuel Adams)
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To: michellecalifornia
These Marxist priests and bishops have been weakening the morals of the church since the 1960’s. We had one bishop of Detroit during the viet Nam war that went over there and came home lying about the viet cong(good) and the Americans fighting(bad)..I think his name was Gumbleton or close to it...I left the church in the mid 60’s. Have heard it said the floors of hell are littered with the skulls of bishops and cardinals...just think this idiot gets to elect the new pope...Instead of catholics praying for priests bishops and cardinals, they should be praying for Jesus to clean out His house....IMHO Don't wish to upset any good catholics.
78 posted on 04/28/2010 11:37:12 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: NoLibZone

This apparently is more important than saving babies lives. It is also more important than dealing with those who champion murder of the innocents and call themselves Catholic.

The hierarchy stands accused of being compicit in the murder of the innocents. Herod was pro-life compared to these guys.


79 posted on 04/29/2010 2:33:10 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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