Posted on 04/28/2010 11:10:41 AM PDT by Texas Eagle
I heard a caller tell Rush Limbaugh that he was a Green Card holder and that when he received his card he also received a packet of information which contained instructions for him to have his Card with him at all times.
So, my question is: Isn't the Obama administration guilty of Nazi like tactics also?
That's how it works in the two states I live, OH & FL (I think FL). But, from what I understand, there are several states that issue DLs to illegals.
Also, residency is not necessarily a requirement for obtaining a SS card. There are some situations where someone in the country illegally could be in legal possession of a SSN. I have been told that these cars look different than normal cards. But, I don't know independently, if this is accurate.
I guess a NM license wouldn’t do then.
20 FOR ANY LAWFUL CONTACT MADE BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR AGENCY
21 OF THIS STATE OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS
22 STATE WHERE REASONABLE SUSPICION EXISTS THAT THE PERSON IS AN ALIEN WHO IS
23 UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES, A REASONABLE ATTEMPT SHALL BE MADE,
24 WHEN PRACTICABLE, TO DETERMINE THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERSON. THE
25 PERSON'S IMMIGRATION STATUS SHALL BE VERIFIED WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
26 PURSUANT TO 8 UNITED STATES CODE SECTION 1373(c).
Allows them to stop them "FOR ANY LAWFUL CONTACT" not just on a whim.
Those would do it, but as was mentioned in a previous post, a DL doesn’t prove anything (some states do not require birth certificats or proof of citizenship), and people aren’t encouraged to carry their SS card with them...we keep ours in a strong box. In fact the gov’t sites tell you not to carry your SS card with you. From the SS site in answer to the question is it legal to laminate my SS card:
No it is not illegal, but it’s best not to laminate your card. Laminated cards make it difficult, if not impossible, to detect important security features and an employer may refuse to accept it.
The Social Security Act requires the Commissioner of Social Security to issue cards that cannot be counterfeited. We incorporate many features that protect the card’s integrity. That includes highly specialized paper and printing techniques—some visible to the naked eye and some not. Further, we continue to actively explore and adopt new technologies that hamper duplication.
Keep your Social Security card in a safe place with your other important papers. Do not carry it with you.
http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/ssa.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1412
I had to show my BC in Texas years ago.
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/DriverLicense/identificationrequirements.htm
Your neighbor must be here on a German Passport with a US issued Visa.
The term "for any lawful contact" is so overly broad, it's effectively meaningless.
Yes he’s legal, and yes he has those documents, I’m sure, but he doesn’t carry them with him. And that’s my point, they’re going to have to lay down specifics as to what a person should carry with them in order to prove they’re legal. Say they have a NC driver’s license, well that proves nothing. In a previous link, I posted the requirements for a NC license and you don’t need a birth certificate. It’s just so ambiguous, the talk of “papers”...they’ll have to set down specifics.
Since the attacks on September 11, 2001, Virginia has really toughened up their license requirements. Now you are required to provide your long form birth certificate if you want a driver’s license. I believe existing license holders are grandfathered, but my wife, who moved here from Michigan had to provide her choice of a long form birth certificate or U.S. Passport.
Now Virginia has switched to these high-tech licenses. They are ugly but supposedly are more tamper proof with regard to faking.
And....
Did I hear that Texas is now going to require a copy of your birth certificate before you can next renew your drivers license?
Unless of course, you’re a Kenyan posing as the President.
When I drive my car, I have to have a Valid Driver's License, a Valid Registration and a Valid Proof of Insurance.
When I'm buying Liquor, the Law states that the clerk is supposed to ask for a Valid form of Identification if I look under 30 years of age.
I can go on and on, but facts mean nothing to those who want to make the people opposed to ILLEGAL Immigration out to be Bigots and Nazis.
The term "for any lawful contact" is so overly broad, it's effectively meaningless.
Well then read the bill if you want specificity.
"That means the officer is already engaged in some detention of an individual because he's violated some other law," says Kris Kobach, a University of Missouri Kansas City Law School professor who helped draft the measure. "The most likely context where this law would come into play is a traffic stop."
Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/Byron-York/A-carefully-crafted-immigration-law-in-Arizona-92136104.html#ixzz0mQLmXTqj
That is it!!
I went every year to fill one out, until one year I went and couldn’t find it. I asked “Where are the post cards for residential aliens?” Then I was told I didn’t have to fill it out anymore. I think it was in the ‘70’s.
So, my question is: Isn’t the Obama administration guilty of Nazi like tactics also?”
They are bringing suit against a state that is upholding existing Federal law. They are not trumping it, they are enforcing it. Feds may not provide necessary information.
That’s a fair point, but that still doesn’t preclude that we now have to carry our passports with us all the time.
My mom speaks with a thick Irish Brogue, she’s been a citizen since 1960. If she blows by a red-light, Is it far-fetch to assume the officer would take her in because she’ll only be carrying a driver’s license on her? Which is no proof of citizenship?
Look, I would have no problem if one is arrested, bring you back to the police station and make you prove citizenship. You shouldn’t have gotten arrested in the first place.
Florida just started with strong requirements this past January. A lot of distraught license seekers because not only to you have to provide your original birth certificate, if you’re married, and you’ve taken your husband’s name, you have to provide your “official” marriage certificate. My sister recently had hers renewed, and even though she’s had a Florida license with her married and maiden name on it for 34 years, she had to go to county records and get a copy of her marriage license.
That’s right. And is it profiling when someone is carded before purchasing a drink because the bartender/waitress can’t tell if they are legal age or not? Do we call that profiling against all young people?
I have a feeling that if I wait for common sense to return to this country, I’ll be hearing about it from the grave.
As a citizen of the US you are not required to carry identification with you if you are out for a stroll. However if you are driving an automobile, traveling on a plane, purchasing goods with a check or credit card, buying a dog, getting a fishing license, renting a boat, bicycle, applying for a job or a million other instances, proof of identification is required. Proof of identification has become commonplace and if a citizen of the US wants to avoid being asked for such identification he must forego many of the conveniences of life. Such as cashing his paycheck.
What the person that has obtained a Green Card must understand is that Green Card must be in their possession at all times. That is a condition of being granted the card in the first place. If the applicant for the Green Card feels the intrusion of carrying the card on their person is too great a burden, they are free to go back home.
So, if someone posts something Rush says, you are automatically going to demean it?
You dont like Rush because other people do?
You are making an extreme leap to go from someone agreeing that showing green cards is akin to showing papers, to then say that everything should be immoratlized.
Why are you so obsessed with what other people like?
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