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Approaching apocalypse: Will Obama docs surface?
World Net Daily ^ | April 20, 2010 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 04/20/2010 8:02:29 PM PDT by Smokeyblue

The defense attorney for an officer refusing Army orders until Barack Obama documents his eligibility to be commander in chief has hinted that the president's proof of eligibility could come up during the course of the government's prosecution of his client.

"In the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice), just as you would expect, criminal defendants have the process of the court, for subpoenas and depositions under the rules that are prescribed," attorney Paul Jensen said during an interview today on the radio show of G. Gordon Liddy.

Jensen was on the program with his client, Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, who posted a YouTube video inviting his own court-martial because he believes military orders under an ineligible president are illegal, and then posted a letter telling Obama that it's up to him to provide the proof.

"I'm not going to say what we are going to do other than we are going to do what you would want us to do," Jensen said.

He specifically avoided broadcasting any specific defense strategy for the case that is developing against Lakin – confirming that the officer was told in writing on Monday that he now has been "flagged" by the military and charges are expected to be filed soon.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: army; birthcertificate; certifigate; eligible; fraud; ineligible; lakin; military; naturalborncitizen; obama; terrylakin; wnd
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To: Smokeyblue

we’ll see


181 posted on 04/21/2010 6:33:14 AM PDT by phockthis
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To: True Republican Patriot

Hey Patriot, you need to be careful, just remember you are talking to a Washington State university “Professor”???


182 posted on 04/21/2010 6:36:53 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: Smokeyblue; jarofants

Ditto, and it takes real cojones!!!


183 posted on 04/21/2010 6:39:28 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: GOPsterinMA; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj

LOL AUH2o made the same post I did, last night.

He added Cleveland in 1892 whom I forgot.

Clevleand wasn’t on the ballot in Idaho, Colorado, Wyoming ,Kansas and North Dakota. Where I guess the Populist Weaver got the rat line as well (fusion).

In North Dakota actually (their first election) the electors were elected separately. 2 fusion electors won, 1 for each Cleveland and Weaver. But in calculating the actually non-existent popular votes they give the fusion vote to Weaver. I suppose cause Weaver’s winning elector got more votes than Cleveland’s.


184 posted on 04/21/2010 6:42:55 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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To: Impy; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj

You folks are a treasure chest of information! Thank you! I always learn something new.


185 posted on 04/21/2010 7:02:38 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Paul Ryan/Greg Abbott in 2012.)
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To: xkaydet65; Smokeyblue
There are things I don’t like about John McCain, but the truth is that an Obama presidency will inflict the greatest disaster on this nation that it has ever seen. Four years of the haloed one will see a rebirth of the USSR here in the USA.

Let's see now, should the above quote not be enough for you with a "nice try," or is that quote just taken out of thin air and rhetoric???

186 posted on 04/21/2010 7:03:36 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: xkaydet65
Providing a real alternative to the Dems insanities is where things should be focused. Also, I believe if this had any validity Hillary would have uncovered all there was to be uncovered in the primary.

2 observations:

1. Conservatives aren't liberals -- we are more than capable of multi-tasking. No one is discounting the importance of November. At the same time though should Obama be proven to be a usurper, then the whole Democratic party comes crashing down, and all the laws Obama signed are null and void. To try and claim that is not important to pursue either makes you a closet liberal or braindead.

2. You must think Hillary is a saint. Well, she's not, she has more skeletons in her closet than Carter's has liver pills. If the Obama camp had the goods on even one of those skeletons they would have been able to effectively silence her. Its not rocket science.

Last observation: Those 2 arguments are easily shot down. Going to have to find some new ones.

187 posted on 04/21/2010 7:06:29 AM PDT by conservativegramma (If Congress refuses to listen, its taxation without representation all over again)
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To: Arthur McGowan; xkaydet65
“If the electorate don’t care about it, why should we stick our necks out?”

And that is coming from a Conservative Constitution lover in black robe???

There is no help, we are totally sold out to Marxism!!!

188 posted on 04/21/2010 7:15:37 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: manonCANAL

Is he fighting the battle alone, or has he attorney “help”???


189 posted on 04/21/2010 7:28:01 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: Impy

So ND in 1892 did not list a candidate name on the ballot, just the name of 3 fusion electors and 3 GOP electors? I thought that even though one could vote for individual electors they would at least list the name of the candidate, and that they listed Weaver’s name atop the fusion delegates.


190 posted on 04/21/2010 7:28:41 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: SaraJohnson
If Obama is found not to be legally in the white house, I want all of those involved up for treason for abetting Obama’s crime. That is why they are all so desparate to cover up what they have done to the American people and our constitution.

I concur with that statement! I would add that is not only the Democrats, you have to add Congress not pursuing the matter being accomplices, each and every elector, 50 state secretary's of state, the media sycophants, the judiciary throwing out case after case, the joint chiefs who could right now this minute refuse to follow any more orders until Obama comes clean but won't, the list just keeps growing.

And IF we can finally prove this attack against our nation, and bring these people to trial, I don't want prison terms we taxpayers have to pay for that will run into millions of dollars - we need to do what we used to do in this country to traitors - execute them. Make them an example so horrific it will never be repeated again!

191 posted on 04/21/2010 7:29:36 AM PDT by conservativegramma (If Congress refuses to listen, its taxation without representation all over again)
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To: little jeremiah

Psst, that’s what university “professors” teach students, they “know”(?) a lot about the private sector!!!


192 posted on 04/21/2010 7:33:42 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: xkaydet65; little jeremiah
This isn’t the hill to die on. November 2010 is the first step. Providing a real alternative to the Dems insanities is where things should be focused. Also, I believe if this had any validity Hillary would have uncovered all there was to be uncovered in the primary.

Really, she actually, or Bill, were among the very first "Birther" = Constitutionalists, and also her rooter-mate Phil Berg!

You forgot to mention that Bill answered on the question if he thought Barry was ready to be "Resident", "yes, IF he is qualified"!!

He then said that he was hit with the RACE card, and thereafter both of them were effectively pacified, like many others, and went totally underground and became mum like Chicago lapdogs!!!

193 posted on 04/21/2010 7:45:06 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: Pan_Yans Wife; Frantzie

How long will we stay in Germany, Japan, S.Korea, etc.???


194 posted on 04/21/2010 7:52:10 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: AuH2ORepublican; GOPsterinMA

I imagine they did list the candidates names.

I guess I shouldn’t have called the popular vote ‘non-existent’. That’s not accurate.

Harrison’s “popular vote” listed is I assume for his elector that got the most votes.

And the fusion vote listed for the fusion elector that got the most votes, and it was Weaver elector. So the “popular vote” records no votes for Cleveland.

AFAIK in all case where the electors were chosen separately statewide that’s how the ‘popular vote’ is calculated. They use the elector that got the most votes.

If that confusing in 1960 in Alabama the electors were separately elected and 5 of the all-victorious rat electors were pledged to Kennedy. 6 were unpledged and voted for Dixiecrat Harry Byrd.

Kennedy is regarded as getting 318,303 votes (his best elector) and 56.39% to Nixon’s 237,981 42.16% (ditto). While the unpledged vote in (best elector got 324,050 votes) is left unaccounted for in the ‘popular vote’.


195 posted on 04/21/2010 7:55:07 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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To: garjog; Danae; butterdezillion; STARWISE; All

Ping to Post #137.

Also, you don't have to go off the deep end, imagining witches and time travel — this isn't like Al Gore's Global Warming conspiracy, LOL. Put the bong away. There are many other far-more reasonable explanations regarding Obama's original birth certificate(s).

First off, the newspaper announcements would have been generated just as easily if the baby had been born at home or elsewhere off the island via a Certificate of Delayed Birth. If the birth did not happen at a hospital, the mother's signature (and hopefully any other witnesses) would have been all that was required, and that could have been forged by Obama's grandmama if Ann Dunham and baby Obama were not present on the island in August 1961.

And UNLIKE the birth record documents shown BELOW, if Obama's original birth certificate was later part of an Adoption (name change) by Obama's step-father Lolo Soetoro in 1966 or 1971, the original birth certificate(s) would likely have been SEALED and held by Hawaii Family Court order at 777 Punchbowl and thus subsequently NOT housed at the Office of Vital Statistics at 1250 Punchbowl in Honolulu. This is perfectly allowable per Hawaii Family Court rules. In fact, Obama and/or his attorneys could have requested his original birth certificate be pulled and SEALED while Obama was an adult a few years ago, to add a further layer of protection to safeguard any filed original birth certificate during his presidential run. Any other of Obama's original birth certificates were likely scrubbed in the US State Dept break-in of March 2008 (see Obama’s Intelligence Adviser Involved in Security Breach).

As a result, if Hawaii Health Director Fukino saw ANYTHING, it was likely Obama's vital records file jacket, not his original birth certificate.

Evidence for Late Filing or Alteration

196 posted on 04/21/2010 8:00:30 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: little jeremiah

Like opposing attorneys meets for cocktail after court hearings!!


197 posted on 04/21/2010 8:04:31 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: little jeremiah; Pan_Yans Wife

The sad thing is that both branches are effectively neutered plus one of them with the sickness of D.C. syndrome (District of Corruption)!!!


198 posted on 04/21/2010 8:08:08 AM PDT by danamco (")
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To: GOPsterinMA

I’m glad obscure minutia of it all doesn’t bore you.

;d

I’m fascinated by that kind of stuff.


199 posted on 04/21/2010 8:11:05 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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To: Impy

I don’t think that Cleveland was listed at all in the ND ballot—my understanding is that Weaver was listed but at least one of the electors under his name was pledged to Cleveland. Same thing in some of the other Western states. Conversely, some other states listed Cleveland and not Weaver but at least one of the electors under his name was pledged to Weaver.

I could be mistaken, though.


200 posted on 04/21/2010 8:13:16 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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