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The Ex-Soldier Will Lose All of His Military Benefits
knx1070 ^ | : Saturday, 17 April 2010 7:28AM

Posted on 04/17/2010 9:47:47 AM PDT by Touch Not the Cat

Edited on 04/17/2010 10:38:04 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

The U.S. Army has dismissed a soldier who threatened fellow troops and sent the Pentagon a violent rap song he wrote to protest his Iraq redeployment orders, officials said Saturday.

The dismissal for misconduct means Spc. Marc A. Hall will avoid criminal charges but lose all military benefits earned over at least four years of service, including an earlier tour in Iraq.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dismissal; free; misconduct; rap; speach; veteran
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1 posted on 04/17/2010 9:47:47 AM PDT by Touch Not the Cat
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To: Touch Not the Cat

At least prosecute him for shitty rap.


2 posted on 04/17/2010 9:52:36 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Touch Not the Cat

This is gonna piss him off pretty bad.


3 posted on 04/17/2010 9:54:29 AM PDT by wastedyears (The Founders revolted for less.)
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To: Touch Not the Cat

“The dismissal for misconduct means Spc. Marc A. Hall will avoid criminal charges but lose all military benefits earned over at least four years of service, including an earlier tour in Iraq.”

How does this differ from anyone else discharged for misconduct?


4 posted on 04/17/2010 9:54:39 AM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: edcoil

The story has holes in it.


5 posted on 04/17/2010 9:58:02 AM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: SJSAMPLE

Refusing to deploy is one thing...but THREATENING his fellow troops? THAT should be dealt w/ severely, IMO. That is completely unacceptable!


6 posted on 04/17/2010 9:58:30 AM PDT by ChrisInAR (Alright, tighten your shorts, Pilgrim, & sing like the Duke!)
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To: edcoil
How does this differ from anyone else discharged for misconduct?

It doesn't. Other than getting a dishonorable, which doesn't mean squat these days, the guy gets out of the Army and goes on with his life. As for loss of benefits, I don't think 4 years entitles you to anything does it? I served for 3 and all I collected was my final paycheck........

7 posted on 04/17/2010 10:01:22 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Don't beg members to "read my tagline".....just wave a flag and say "Hey, look at me!")
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To: Touch Not the Cat

What benefits could he have earned other than GI Bill and VA Medical care?

Is the point of this story that we should all feel sorry for this guy? So lets just go ahead and give him the GI Bill and VA Medical care for life. In fact why not just give him a freakin’ pension? And how about the writer of the article gets to pay for it?

Can’t really feel sorry. The last line there about “No remorse” was so fitting - the US Government has no remorse for firing his sorry ass either.


8 posted on 04/17/2010 10:03:15 AM PDT by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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I loved hearing that filthy ACLU-type lawyer saying “hey,nothing to see here...it's political speech”.It's a motherbleeping THREAT,you filthy Maoist lawyer!!!!
9 posted on 04/17/2010 10:07:15 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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It's outrageous that anyone would defend this guy.

Just my opinion.

10 posted on 04/17/2010 10:08:27 AM PDT by Touch Not the Cat (Where is the light? Wonder if it's weeping somewhere...)
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To: edcoil
The discharge process in this case is administrative. There are several types of administrative discharges [differentiated from punitive discharge emanating from courts martial]in which a soldier's period of service receives a characterization [honorable, General, Other than Honorable (OTH)

Those discharged OTH cannot reenlist and the majority of veterans' benefits are not available including the Montgomery GI Bill and (in most cases) VA healthcare benefits.

Most likely, this person was offered and exercised his option to accept an administrative discharge in lieu of a trial which could have resulted on confinement.

That is the best I can do, ED, given the sketchy details.

11 posted on 04/17/2010 10:22:12 AM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: Touch Not the Cat
The dirt bag was probably a plant from a gang or thought the pay and benefits from a single tour might have been worth the trouble, but being extended by “Stop Loss” angered him.
12 posted on 04/17/2010 10:24:02 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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A 34 year old E-4. No loss.


13 posted on 04/17/2010 10:30:52 AM PDT by Dedbone
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Real cute making a song about killing US soldiers. What a creep. He did this to get out of the military and it worked. In the meantime, he is the jihadi sympathizers’ hero. Another “freedom fighter” for Islam.


14 posted on 04/17/2010 10:44:12 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: edcoil

It’s fairly standard. But the worst thing that will happen to this idiot will be his ability get a good job. His bad conduct discharge will show up when companies screen his job application. He’ll wind up working under the table at some junk yard or stealing. That is, if he doesn’t have access to a family business.


15 posted on 04/17/2010 11:58:24 AM PDT by dools007
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They just want to get him oughta there. He’s a malcontent. Why waste time and money on him?

No respectable company hires people with bad conduct discharges. This idiot’ll wind up working at a junk yard being paid under the table or he’ll steal—or both.


16 posted on 04/17/2010 12:01:21 PM PDT by dools007
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or stealing.

Or worse. I bet that within four years he will make the local papers.

17 posted on 04/17/2010 12:03:00 PM PDT by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: dools007
His bad conduct discharge will show up when companies screen his job application.

He would've had to be court martialed to get a Big Chicken Dinner. He probably got admin-sep'd, same thing you get for doing drugs or racking up a bunch of DUIs.

18 posted on 04/17/2010 12:03:30 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: dools007

But this guy committed a serious criminal act when he threatened his colleagues, didn’t he?


19 posted on 04/17/2010 12:30:37 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (Alright, tighten your shorts, Pilgrim, & sing like the Duke!)
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Yo ChrisInAR, you are right. But why would you keep this slug in theater? Soldiers have relatively easy access to guns and ammo. Be assured he’s made a lot of his fellow soldiers angry. Perhaps angry enough to arrange an accident for this coward. Military is not gonna let that happen.

Best thing in both the short and long terms is to get the man out of theater and out of the Army.


20 posted on 04/17/2010 1:33:22 PM PDT by dools007
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