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Obama and Israel: Showdown at the UN?
Fox News (LiveShots) ^ | April 16, 2010 | Ben Evansky

Posted on 04/16/2010 6:36:45 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo

The Obama administration is reportedly signaling another major shift in policy towards one of its staunchest allies, Israel, and this shift could change the way it votes at the Security Council. The change would mean an end to the US' use of its veto power in the United Nations Security Council when certain anti-Israel resolutions are introduced for a vote.‪

Reports surfaced a couple of weeks ago, that a senior US diplomat met with Qatar's foreign minister in Paris. They discussed the possibility that the US was giving serious consideration to not using its veto if a vote on Israeli settlements was to come up. It has been the policy of successive administrations to veto virtually all anti-Israel resolutions at the Security Council.‪

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dncantiisrael; dnchatesisrael; enemydomestic; israel; obama; obama4islam; obamaantiisrael; obamahatesisrael; obamaintifada; un
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To: Mr. Mojo

btt


22 posted on 04/17/2010 10:23:25 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Mr. Mojo

Further building by Israelis in Gaza undermines the “two state solution” for peace. Without the creation of two separate states, in ten years Arabs will outnumber Jews in the West Bank, Gaza, and even in Israel itself.

Israel’s chief negotiator with the Palestinians, Foreign Minister Levini, said recently on 60 minutes that peace is “unthinkable” with all the settlers in Gaza. When she was asked about the difficulties of moving all the settlers back to Israel she replied, “It’s not going to be easy. But this is the only solution.”


23 posted on 04/17/2010 2:41:55 PM PDT by freethinker_for_freedom
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To: freethinker_for_freedom
[Livni] said recently on 60 minutes that peace is “unthinkable” with all the settlers in Gaza.

Israel pulled out of Gaza years ago, and it was a complete diaster as the Arabs not only mindlessly destroyed everything worthwhile abandoned by the departing Jewish community (like food production facilities), but actually increased both their demands and terrorist activity subsequent to the departure. (Gee, who could've seen that coming?).

I believe you're referring to the Jews in the W. Bank, not Gaza. ...a far larger (and thankfully ever-growing) community. Livni and other brain-dead libs on both sides of the Atlantic are deluded beyond description if they believe that if the Jews in the W. Bank were forceably removed from their homes that it would result in anything other than a complete disaster. ...far worse than what happened after the Gaza withdrawal.

Appeasement of Mohammedans never works. Not once, not ever. It merely encourages them.

24 posted on 04/17/2010 4:03:34 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

As I have heard many Jewish people say on TV. Israel must always rely on itself to assure that the holocost never happens again, and it will make sure it can defend itself.


25 posted on 04/17/2010 5:07:33 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

I wonder if it is possible for a late forty something American guy to go and join the IDF ?????


26 posted on 04/17/2010 5:29:04 PM PDT by WNC mountainboy (Fed up to here with it !!!!!!!!)
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To: WNC mountainboy

I don’t have a clue, but I would guess no.


27 posted on 04/17/2010 5:31:18 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

“I believe you’re referring to the Jews in the W. Bank...”

Right.

“Appeasement of Mohammedans never works...”

With regards to the creation of a separate Palestinian state, the intent would be not to just satisfy the Muslim community, but to preserve Israel as a Jewish state as well. As the Muslims continue to out-reproduce the Jews, the Jews will become a minority in their own country in about ten years. Therefore, it is in their interests to have someplace to send the Muslims. Another option is for Israel to surrender the West Bank to Jordan and allow them to immigrate there.

Allowing continued Jewish settlement of the West Bank makes all options for a separate place for these Muslims to go more difficult, and could ultimately lead to great difficulties for Israel.


28 posted on 04/17/2010 8:42:24 PM PDT by freethinker_for_freedom
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To: freethinker_for_freedom
Therefore, it is in their interests to have someplace to send the Muslims.

That's for sure. But that place doesn't have to include the small slice of land currently settled by the Jewish community in the W. Bank. As I mentioned, giving the Arabs what they ask for not only doesn't guarantee peace (as many naively believe), it in fact puts Israel in greater danger.

I have a few ideas on how to resolve this business, and none of them are pretty. A couple of them are quite radical, in fact. But among the most palatable is George Will's recommendation of A Short War and a High Wall.

29 posted on 04/17/2010 9:12:20 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: freethinker_for_freedom
Another option is for Israel to surrender the West Bank to Jordan and allow them to immigrate there.

How about securing the West Bank and aggressively driving the filthy subhumans back into Jordan, where they came from in the first place.

30 posted on 04/17/2010 9:15:13 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Republicans...the REAL civil rights party.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

“How about securing the West Bank and aggressively driving the filthy subhumans back into Jordan, where they came from in the first place.”

Maybe. Interesting that the US is eight years into fighting two wars to help their counterparts in Iraq and Afghanistan establish Western-style democracy. How did that happen?


31 posted on 04/18/2010 4:20:32 AM PDT by freethinker_for_freedom
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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32 posted on 04/18/2010 5:46:44 AM PDT by SJackson (Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature; DownInFlames

To impeach Zer0 would take a simple majority vote of the House. To convict him following impeachment would take a 2/3’s supermajority vote of the Senate (67 votes).


33 posted on 04/18/2010 6:02:44 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (FUBO! FUNP! FUHR! FUBS!)
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To: DownInFlames

ballot box in Nov?? Not with the Jewish voters. They worship obama.


34 posted on 04/18/2010 6:04:43 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: freethinker_for_freedom

Go away, lefty. (Yes, I’ve looked at your posting history, sweetie. You’re not fooling anybody.)


35 posted on 04/18/2010 6:47:49 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: DownInFlames
Bad advice, bad move indeed. Backfire in November? I doubt it.

Obama isn't running till 2012. Israel could be a memory by then.

36 posted on 04/18/2010 8:58:19 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: mojitojoe
Most of them have never been to Israel and they couldn’t care less about it.

That's it in a nutshell. Liberal jews are no more Jews than liberal Democrats are really for democracy.

37 posted on 04/18/2010 9:03:01 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: freethinker_for_freedom
Further building by Israelis in Gaza undermines the “two state solution” for peace.

??? The Israelis under Sharon evacuated Gaza several years ago. As for the "two state solution," settlers in the West Bank are the least obstacle possible.

If the Palis really wanted a two state solution, settlers would be no issue at all. They could stay where they are and the Palis could welcome them. That's if the palis were serious of course, which they demonstrably are not.

38 posted on 04/18/2010 9:09:43 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

I was talking about the impact to Dems in 2010 mid-term elections.


39 posted on 04/18/2010 10:26:53 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: Mr. Mojo
"If the Obama administration believes that it can bring about more peace and harmony and respect for America by sitting on its hands and refusing to exercise the veto, while the likes of Russia and China... and Lebanon (which is currently a member).... revel in a hate-filled denunciation of Israel, then the administration is delusional. The refusal to exercise the veto will be read as weakness, as will any attempt by the Obama administration to deflect criticism by claiming "the UN made me do it."‪‪

Bo is using our nation for whatever advantage he determines promotes himself in the eyes of the international community but the worlds leaders are not playing his street game....he has failed greatly in gaining popularity among the leaderships world wide...they seem him as a dunce. Therefore they can and will manipulate him....if behind a rock and hard place I would assume he will vote..."present". He is a gutless wonder!

40 posted on 04/18/2010 10:27:51 AM PDT by caww
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