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Federal judge rules Day of Prayer unconstitutional
AP via SFGate ^ | 4/15/10

Posted on 04/15/2010 1:01:15 PM PDT by SmithL

Madison, Wis. (AP) -- A federal judge in Wisconsin says the National Day of Prayer is unconstitutional.

U.S. District Judge Barbara Crabb issued the ruling Thursday in a lawsuit filed by the Madison-based Freedom From Religion Foundation.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; Government; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: activistjudge; atheismandstate; barackhusseinobama; barbaracrabb; bhoprayer; freedomfromreligion; freedomofreligion; immoralabsolutes; jimmycarter; judicialtyranny; moralabsolutes; obama; sicsempertyranis; wisconsin
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To: Lucky9teen
In a small way, I can kind of see her point:

"Government involvement in prayer is constitutional only as long as it does not call for religious action, which the prayer day does, U.S. District Judge Barbara Crabb wrote in her ruling."

Justice Joseph Story: “ I verily believe Christianity necessary to the support of civil society. One of the beautiful boasts of our municipal jurisprudence is that Christianity is a part of the Common Law. . . There never has been a period in which the Common Law did not recognize Christianity as lying its foundations.” [Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States p. 593]

“ At the time of the adoption of the constitution, and of the amendment to it, now under consideration [i.e., the First Amendment], the general, if not the universal sentiment in America was, that Christianity ought to receive encouragement from the state, so far as was not incompatible with the private rights of conscience, and the freedom of religious worship.” [Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States p. 593]

______________________________________________________ Washington: "General Thanksgiving" speech Oct. 14, 1789…"Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor; and whereas both Houses of Congress have, by their joint committee, requested me "to recommend to the people of the United States a Day Of Public Thanksgiving And Prayer, to be observed By acknowledging with grateful hearts the many and signal favors of Almighty God…"

Samuel Adams: "It is therefore recommended to set apart Thursday the 18th day of December next, for solemn thanksgiving and praise, that with one heart and one voice, the good people may express the grateful feelings of their hearts and consecrate themselves to the service of their divine benefactor…" Nov. 1, 1877 first official Thanksgiving Proclamation.

John Adams, member of the Continental Congress, 2nd President of the United States, Vice President To the United States, Commissioner to France, US Ambassador to England: On March 6, 1789, President Adams called for a national day of fasting and prayer so that the nation might "call to mind the numerous offenses against the most high God, confess them before Him with the sincerest penitence, implore his pardoning mercy, through the Great Mediator and Redeemer, for our past transgression, and that through the grace of His Holy Spirit, we may be disposed and enabled to yield a more suitable obedience.."

_______________________________________________________________ Thomas Jefferson: March 4, 1805, offered A National Prayer for Peace: "Almighty God, Who has given us this good land for our heritage. We humbly beseech Thee that we may always prove ourselves a people mindful of Thy favor and glad to do Thy will. Bless our land with honorable ministry, sound learning, and pure manners. Save us from violence, discord, and confusion, from pride and arrogance, and from every evil way. Defend our liberties, and fashion into one united people the multitude brought hither out of many kindreds and tongues. Endow with Thy spirit of wisdom those to whom in Thy Name we entrust the authority of government, that there may be justice and peace at home, and that through obedience to Thy law, we may show forth Thy praise among the nations of the earth. In time of prosperity fill our hearts with thankfulness, and in the day of trouble, suffer not our trust to fail; all of which we ask through Jesus Christ our Lord, Amen."

__________________________________ John Quincy Adams: "Duty is ours; results are God's. The first and almost the only Book deserving of universal attention is the Bible. I speak as a man of the world to men of the world; and I say to you, Search the Scriptures! The Bible is the book of all others, to be read at all ages, and in all conditions of human life; not to be read once or twice or thrice through, and then laid aside, but to be read in small portions of one or two chapters every day, and never to be intermitted, unless by some overruling necessity. In what light so ever we regard the Bible, whether with reference to revelation, to history, or to morality, it is an invaluable and inexhaustible mine of knowledge and virtue. It is no slight testimonial, both to the merit and worth of Christianity, that in all ages since its promulgation the great mass of those who have risen to eminence by their profound wisdom and integrity have recognized and reverenced Jesus of Nazareth as the Son of the living God." "…Posterity- you will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it."

81 posted on 04/15/2010 3:09:05 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: Bitsy

HEAR HEAR
I’m fed up of special groups coming down here and suing our country which they have just done again by getting a fed judge to give 140,000 to two mothers because their kids sang a song with the word God in it once.
the homo’s have sued us twice and all of them come down from DC, or MA


82 posted on 04/15/2010 3:09:45 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: SmithL

Glad it’s WI and not out here in the west where these crazy judges tend to hang out.


83 posted on 04/15/2010 3:13:14 PM PDT by Salvation ( "With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SmithL; All

The Framers did NOT intend for the nation to be anti-theistic, nor is
National Prayer Day the establishment of a religion. Neither the apathetic
nor the Atheists are compelled to participate.

Now if this Activist judge did something like shut down ALL Federal spending
because money displays “In God We Trust,” I could go for that if it
enforced the fiscal retraint Congress fails to exercise everyday.

May this non-sensical opinion be overturned swiftly!


84 posted on 04/15/2010 3:14:12 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Cicero; SpinnerWebb

This handsome woman appears to be Martina's long lost sibling .. and cut from the same bolt of cloth ..

Just sayin'

85 posted on 04/15/2010 3:21:10 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: manc
It has been determined by clairvoyant jurists schooled in the mystical arts that our Constitution contains obscure penumbras and subtle nuances that our Founders just forgot to put to parchment. Thank God for the transcendent discernment of these eminently qualified jurists or we would never have known. ;^)
86 posted on 04/15/2010 3:31:33 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have just two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: JoSixChip
What is Christmas? will it be declared unconstitutional next?

Christmas is a Holy Day that should be left to Christians only. Let everyone else work, but I will take it as a vacation day.

87 posted on 04/15/2010 3:32:32 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: Clock King

“Liberal white females - the source of most problems.”

True story - My daughter had a B average in Freshman Comp. Her final essay for the course was a persuasive essay concerning her opinion of the feminist position on something (I can’t remember what). My daughter doesn’t agree with the feminist view. The professor failed her.

Moral of story - Never disagree with a liberal white female! You wouldn’t believe the comments the professor put on that paper!


88 posted on 04/15/2010 3:37:42 PM PDT by southernsunshine
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To: manc

I seem to recall a Twilight Zone episode that this reminds me of.

Burgess Meredith was sentenced to death by the government after having been deemed “obsolete”.He managed to lock his guard in the cell with him,(which was rigged to explode).Burgess just quietly sat waiting for the end reading his Bible,while the guard broke into a panic.Burgess finally let him out after the guard pleaded to him,”Let me out,IN THE NAME OF GOD!”

The guard’s superiors were not so forgiving of him for his show of “weakness”.


89 posted on 04/15/2010 3:42:54 PM PDT by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: massmike

The Obsolete Man (Twilight Zone)

Synopsis
In a future state where religion and books have been banned, a librarian is judged obsolete and sentenced to death.

http://www.tv.com/the-twilight-zone/the-obsolete-man/episode/12649/recap.html?tag=episode_recap;recap


90 posted on 04/15/2010 3:47:48 PM PDT by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: Cicero
Leslie Nielson on estrogen:


91 posted on 04/15/2010 3:50:53 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Don't think of work as 5 days on, 2 days off. Instead think 4 nights on, 3 off.)
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To: JoSixChip
Welcome to post racial America America.
92 posted on 04/15/2010 3:58:11 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Control the American people? Herding cats would be easier.)
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To: SmithL

First, I see this one going to the Supreme Court on appeal. Secondly, these kind of judges are inviting God’s judgment and hastening it’s arrival. I can only pray that He’s merciful to those of us who disagree with her ruling.


93 posted on 04/15/2010 4:07:44 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: MrB

Wow, dude, that is one weird picture. Almost had me thinking that I was taking too much Nyquil there.


94 posted on 04/15/2010 4:09:45 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: SmithL

First of all, there is no such thing as seperation of church and state. Those words do not appear in the Constitution period.

Second, a national day of prayer is not establishment of a religion. If the US wants to set aside a day to ask everyone who believes in prayer to pray, that is ok too.

Third, we are not and never have been a secular nation, and I am sick and tired of boneheaded judges providing stupid rulings to try to make the USA a secular nation.

Fourth, I am fed up with ensuring that the miniority: agnostics, socialists, and marxists get to live the way they want and every freakin’ American tradition and institution is no longer able to function the way the majority of the people want, and the way the founders intended, that I feel like screaming all the time. Doesn’t the majority have any rights anymore?

I would be fine to see the NE, and west coast, and any other blue states that want to get the h### out of our Republic.

We can keep the military, and they can keep the peaceniks, and freeloaders. We can cling to our religion, constitution, and guns. They can cling to the UN, NGOs, and Global Warming. A pox on all of them. Blaaaaaah.


95 posted on 04/15/2010 4:13:57 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: SmithL

SCOTUS pick


96 posted on 04/15/2010 4:24:15 PM PDT by RadioCirca1970 (Victory or Death in the War on Terror)
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To: JoSixChip
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97 posted on 04/15/2010 4:27:52 PM PDT by Canedawg (I'm not digging this tyranny thing.)
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To: SmithL

A national day of prayer is no more against the Constitution than a President’s Day, Thanksgiving Day, Independence Day or any other day meant to bestow an honor or create a remembrance. You don’t get to be a judge with this kind of a resume with an IQ of 90. This woman is intentionally and deliberately twisted and is doing so with the law. The time has come for people to say it like it is.


98 posted on 04/15/2010 4:30:51 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: SmithL

One freaking judge declares this?

WITH does she thinks she is?

She’s unconstitutional!


99 posted on 04/15/2010 4:34:34 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
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To: JoSixChip

Yes, you can bet on it!


100 posted on 04/15/2010 4:35:21 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
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