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You Have the Right to Remain Silent (LT Colonel Lakin Read His Rights)
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Posted on 04/13/2010 8:19:14 AM PDT by Man50D

Washington, D.C., April 13, 2010. Army doctor Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin yesterday met with his brigade commander, Col. Gordon R. Roberts, who proceeded to read LTC Lakin his Miranda rights, and who informed LTC Lakin he had the “right to remain silent” because LTC Lakin is about to be charged with serious crimes. Col. Roberts was at age 19 awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, the only recipient of the nation’s highest honor currently on active duty in the Army.

LTC Lakin had previously been ordered in writing to report yesterday to Ft. Campbell, KY and then on to deploy for his second tour of duty in Afghanistan. Lakin refused to obey these orders and instead came to work yesterday morning at the Pentagon. Late yesterday afternoon he was confronted by his brigade commander.

Before the meeting was over, LTC Lakin’s Pentagon Access Pass had been revoked, and his laptop computer was set to be confiscated.

The message to LTC Lakin is clear; through official channels, he was informed yesterday that he will shortly be court-martialled for crimes (specifically, missing movement and conduct unbecoming an officer) that for others has led to lengthy imprisonment at hard labor.

Lakin has announced in a YouTube video that has now been viewed more than 110,000 times that he considers it his duty to refuse to obey orders that would be illegal if President Obama is ineligible to hold office.

Meanwhile, cries mount for proof of that eligibility, but nothing has been forthcoming. The Obama campaign at one point released a copy of computer-generated abstract of information purportedly in Hawaii's records system, but the source of this information is unclear and need not have been a birth certificate issued contemporaneously and signed by the doctor who attended the birth. Even the document released was only a copy, and the version printed in the Los Angeles Times on June 16, 2008 is on a form only in use since late 2001. Even as it is, the document contains a warning that it is merely “prima facie”--threshold, rebuttable and thus inconclusive --evidence of birth, and the copy the Times printed mysteriously has the certificate number blacked out, thereby rendering the document unusable according to language on the bottom.

Given the seriousness of the offenses with which LTC Lakin is about to be charged, the American Patriot Foundation today renewed its plea for donations to its legal defense fund for LTC Lakin. Details are available at APF's website, www.safeguardourconstitution.com


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: army; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; lakin; military; naturalborncitizen; obama; terrencelakin
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To: little jeremiah
Carter was born in the US to parents who were citizens, there was no doubt about it. If you don’t see the difference there’s no hope for you at all.

Then there is no hope for me whatsoever. I'm a fool who believes we can't have soldiers who think they can disobey any orders they are given because they dispute the President's credentials. That's not an Army, it's a mob.

381 posted on 04/13/2010 1:10:31 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Mr Rogers
Mr Rogers said: However, I never said, “I refuse to obey, and when it goes to trial, I’ll ask to see every document you have to prove you are a legitimate officer...”

Fine. But in both cases you were exercising your individual judgement about what was lawful and what was not and you were convinced that you were right. Do you believe that a court-martial panel would have been justified in preventing you from presenting evidence of the unlawfulness of the orders?

Should the time come that Lakin is provided subpoena power, I would not be surprised if he is not permitted to subpoena the President himself. But I will be very disappointed if the panel refuses to permit subpoena of documents in the archives of the state of Hawaii.

The burden of proof in this case should be on Lakin and he should be allowed to bear that burden. But the burden of proof of Obama's eligibility was and is on him. It's nonsense what he has been able to hide. What possible repercussions, aside from eligibility, would justify a President of the United States hiding the details of his birth?

382 posted on 04/13/2010 1:10:56 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: Mr Rogers
"“If the masses (i.e. majority) vote someone into office that isn’t Constitutionally eligible, then they should be found ineligibly by the judiciary.”

Incorrect. Congress is responsible, not the judiciary.

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It's up to Congress to interpret the Constitutional meaning of NBC? Surely you jest.

383 posted on 04/13/2010 1:12:50 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Mr Rogers
No, it is more like saying that if the US Treasury accepts a bill as legitimate, it is.

Very true, and now it's up to the SCOTUS to determine bammies eligibility just as the treasury has the last say on what is legal currency.

The electors were duped in the same way as the bank teller in my example.

384 posted on 04/13/2010 1:12:54 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Mr Rogers

Really, perhaps you prove that.


385 posted on 04/13/2010 1:14:05 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Filing an Article 138 complaint is the UCMJ process to pose this grivance...which I just found out that he has done. It is posted above.


386 posted on 04/13/2010 1:16:32 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: Mr Rogers; little jeremiah
I’m not lying. You are stupid - for these facts have been pointed out to you and others on this thread repeatedly. However, facts matter little to you.

That case you have cited means bupkiss.

An Indiana appellate courts ruling for the purpose of establishing obama's eligibility is meaningless as well as a completely flawed decision.

Calling people names is really beneath you though your arguments have been going downhill for a while now.

387 posted on 04/13/2010 1:20:29 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: William Tell
"justify a President of the United States hiding the details of his birth?"

It's not just his birth, it's all his records from his entire life. The only things he has released is his books. For those that argue this is ridiculous, I ask why do you think there is any requirements in the first place. And who should ask these questions if the congress or msm wont? The courts have already stated that American citizens do not have standing to challenge eligibility of POTUS. Good God man, what do you think is going one here?
388 posted on 04/13/2010 1:20:57 PM PDT by JoSixChip (It's time to embrace the madness! The sooner we default the sooner we can reorganize.)
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To: rxsid

Amazing, and it must make you as mad as hell just typing that out. How hopeless can this get?


389 posted on 04/13/2010 1:21:16 PM PDT by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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To: William Tell

“Do you believe that a court-martial panel would have been justified in preventing you from presenting evidence of the unlawfulness of the orders?”

They wouldn’t have needed any. The orders were illegal, and obviously so. I didn’t need to see my Commander’s commissioning papers, or ‘discover’ squat. For example, the logbook sheets had a note on them that filling in false information was a crime, punishable by fines of up to $10,000. I didn’t have a legal theory, I had facts.

Now, if Lakin has proof that Obama was born in Kenya, he’ll do fine. But for ‘discovery’, at most he will be allowed to see a copy of the previously posted Birth Certificate. He won’t be allowed to challenge its veracity unless he had PROOF!

My daughter’s birth certificate from New Mexico issued by the Bureau of Vital Records is proof she was born in New Mexico. I don’t even know if New Mexico has any other records!

Likewise, the military court will find that Obama has a birth certificate from Hawaii...and that will be enough UNLESS Lakin has some evidence of tampering. And if he does, then he could present it now.

I’d LOVE to see evidence that Obama was born in Kenya, or anywhere outside of the USA. But there is none, and birthers just claim the lack of evidence is PROOF of the conspiracy.

It doesn’t work that way.


390 posted on 04/13/2010 1:22:32 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: BuckeyeTexan
and therefore bring legitimacy to the birther movement. Obama would never allow that.

So you do believe bammie is a fraud after all.

391 posted on 04/13/2010 1:23:09 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Mr Rogers
"the military court will find that Obama has a birth certificate from Hawaii"

From what, a picture on the internet of certificate of live birth?
392 posted on 04/13/2010 1:26:06 PM PDT by JoSixChip (It's time to embrace the madness! The sooner we default the sooner we can reorganize.)
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To: Mr Rogers

No comment on Nancy Pelosi filing two different documents with the DNC, which were sent to the SOS of those states?


No comment on the fact that they ALL stated that they took those statements as fact and did not check further? They did not do their jobs.

No comment that there exists in States Evidence Obamas KBC and an affidavit of authenticity, that has not been addressed?

I always find it humorous that many people choose to only reply to PART of a posting, ignoring the bulk of information, and if left unanswered, tends to just “go away”
In the end, its a matter of IF the American people just accept it, or find a way to make our elected officials responsible to the electorate, and if that remedy is not available, fix it so it is.
Bottom line to most people is this IMO, Obama is not qualified to be President, and as such, will not dictate to our military, or its people. He is beholden to this country and its people. His first sworn duty is to uphold the constitution from all enemies both from abroad, and in this country, and that include HIMSELF. The law, and its people, and the spirit, as well as the law, apply to him, and it should be important to him for the unity of the US, if for no other reason.


393 posted on 04/13/2010 1:27:48 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: Las Vegas Ron; little jeremiah

“Calling people names is really beneath you though your arguments have been going downhill for a while now.”

little jeremiah called me a liar. Frankly, I’d rather be called stupid.

Birthers have also called me an Obamabot, suggested I’ve been paid by Obama, that I hate the military that I spent over 25 years in, etc.

I called lj stupid because someone who ignores the facts is stupid. And while you are well within your rights to disagree with the Indiana appellate courts ruling (backed up by the Indiana Supreme Court), you cannot say it is meaningless. States determine how to decide if someone meets constitutional requirements. State courts have the right to review that process. And in this case, the courts determined that Obama IS a natural born citizen, and gave their reasoning.


394 posted on 04/13/2010 1:27:53 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I’ve always maintained that I think Obama is ultimately ineligible.

But a fraud? No, he’s exactly what he advertised himself to be: an America-hating Marxist who wants to run this country into the ground.


395 posted on 04/13/2010 1:28:56 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: JoSixChip

I suspect they will go on statements by state officials, or at most get a copy of the birth certificate that birthers claim means nothing...


396 posted on 04/13/2010 1:29:26 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: colorado tanker
who think they can disobey any orders they are given because they dispute the President's credentials.

That's because this situation has never occurred before....the blame lies with obama.

397 posted on 04/13/2010 1:32:27 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

The attitude is very revealing.

Strange fellow.

Why such transparent urgency among the suckups?


398 posted on 04/13/2010 1:33:58 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Man50D

bttt


399 posted on 04/13/2010 1:34:35 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: rxsid
How anyone can be on this thread defending the pos after seeing those pics is waaaaaaay beyond me.

He is the perfect example of why the Founders put the NBC clause in the Constitution.

400 posted on 04/13/2010 1:35:03 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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