Posted on 04/13/2010 8:19:14 AM PDT by Man50D
ping
Wowzers and will read through.
He is a hero.
His name will be remembered for a long time. In books.
Actually, consider this. If Laken were to question his superior officer, not Obama, then that officer would have to question his superior, along the chain of command, to the top. I wish I know more about it. They did not make the rule that you swear to, with a method to enforce it.
“You’re killing the buzz.”
Sorry. I will try to act less rationally. You know how I always tend to over-analyze things like how, and why, from where. . .
parsy, who is popping a valium. . .(Yes! I do have a prescription!)
No. They certified he got the most electoral college votes.
As a matter of law, it wouldn't make any difference even if the certificate were the seminal act in installing him because the Constitution is couched in terms of "eligibility" to act as President. From a legal point of view, if he isn't eligible, he can't hold the office and act--he isn't there.
For the military officer, it makes a big difference. I assume they all have personal liability (no tort immunity) for people who get shot and property which gets destroyed, under international law because the exemptions apply only for things done under lawful orders of the head of state.
I am astonished that the Joint Chiefs have permitted this situation to continue.
If he based all his hopes on being charged with disobeying a lawful order in the hope that he can somehow link it with Obama then it looks like he did miscalculate. He’s being charged with missing movement and conduct unbecoming. Two charges the Army will have no problems convicting him of without Obama entering into it at all.
Every one knows that orders issued under Obama's authority are illegal--he isn't President because the Constitution says he can't hold the office. Don't see either a difference or a distinction.
We didn't execute people for the reason that Hitler wasn't head of state because whatever else he was, he was the lawful head of state.
Not sure if Obama comes out ahead:
"When To Shoot The Colonels" (by Tom Baugh) implodes a dangerous fantasy.
"At ease, Marines, and be seated" orders the gruff Gunnery Sergeant. "Now turn to Chapter 8 in your Military Constitutional Law text," he continues. "Today we discuss the appropriate conditions for shooting a colonel who is issuing an order which would violate the Constitutional rights of American citizens. Our first scenario involves gun seizures..."
Absurd, isn't it, to think that this sort of education is conducted among our armed forces? Yet, millions of citizens indulge this unspoken fantasy each time they imagine that the military exists to preserve our freedoms...
rest of article at link:
This just goes to show you how much of an idiot Obama The PunkFather is. He should have intervened PERSONALLY to make sure that MoH recipient Roberts didn't get any on him.
Now, the truth of Tom Baugh's article is proven for all the world to see, and draw conclusions from. I've drawn mine.
Question his superior office about what?
But that is not what Lakin is being charged with, if this story is correct. He's being charged with missing movement, not disobeying orders. And conduct unbecoming of an officer. How is he going to work Obama into that? By claiming Obama ordered his unit to deploy? Or that since Obama is illegitimate then all orders given regardless of who they are given by are illegitimate? Good luck with that.
No, they did not. McCain’s SR511 only addresses someone born outside the USA.
No.
Not even close....
Col.Roberts did not make that decision in a vaccum.
He was DIRECTED by higher authority. Whoever has “convening authority” over Lakin is the ONLY officer who can initiate court-martial proceedings.
For all we know.. Roberts and Lakin may play golf together.
Mr Rogers, it is without question that Barak Obama’s father, Barak Obama Sr was born in Kenya, a British protectorate, Obama (Barry Soetoro), admits this in his own published books. Therefore Obama/Soetoro cannot be a natural born citizen by his own admission. The fact that Cheney illegally did not ask for dissent before counting electoral votes, does not make it legal. The fact, that there are 2 different certificates signed by Nancy Pelosi, and endorsed by Howard Dean, does not make him an NBC because he said so. The fact that 50 state secretaries did not do their job and confirm his eligibility does not grant him NBC status. The fact that our court systems play fast and loose with not granting discovery, does not make him a NBC, nor does the fact that SCOTUS will not hear the facts, qualify him. This protest did not happen AFTER he was elected. It happened when he was running. He was ramrodded in, and our elected representatives will not listen to their constituents. Lucas Smith has placed into States Evidence a Birth Certificate from Kenya, along with an Affidavit with the court systems, Cook refused to allow him to even speak, or become part of the court record. AJUS visited him, and the case was dropped. The Elephant in the room, nobody wants to recognize is that he is not an NBC by his own admission, and his first act as President was to seal his records from everyone.
Your the one who coined the phrase “Bananna Republic”
And Congress deferred that role to Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic Party apparatchniks and they turned in affidavits that never said that he was Constitutionally-qualified but concealed Obama’s ineligibility. So then we all go back to the courts and everybody gets a second chance to get it right. Is that okay with you???
Which is why some states do not allow third party candidates on their ballots....unless they pay up front or get so many signatures on a petition....other states let just about anyone on a ballot
A state can refuse a candidate if they do not qualify. Note that there are a few states (Arizona, notably) that are trying to require a long-form BC for any Pres candidate. The states have that right, even without prior legislation, to disqualify a candidate
This is why the Obama BC issue is so important. If he cannot prove he is US born or eligible to be President IAW the Constitution...a state can refuse to put him on the ballot. The BC issue is SO IMPORTANT IN THIS ASPECT....and.......the ones who are fighting and harassing the Birthers are just ENABLING OBAMA FOR RE-ELECTION IN 2012
Let’s see - Deal specifically stated he was NOT denying Obama’s legitimacy.
Keyes isn’t in Congress.
JD Hayworth hasn’t denied Obama is President.
Eric Swafford is NOT a member of Congress.
Guess I’m still waiting. What member of Congress has denied that Obama is qualified as President?
First, the "sentenced to a lengthy imprisonment and hard labor" bit, while possible, is not much more than hype coming from Margaret Hemenway, as is most of the press release. There's no official confirmation yet of how the military command will handle this.
Second, this story is currently getting very little attention in the media, so it's difficult to envision any "public outrage" at this point -- particularly from the families and friends of military now serving in Afghanistan, where every doctor is vitally needed. (And where another doctor had to be deployed in Lakin's place, or worse, where a doctor had to remain after expecting to be relieved after a long tour.)
When you make a claim, it helps to post a quote that supports your claim. Nothing in what you posted says his birth records were verified. At best, it is an admission that his original birth certificate was insufficient to prove a claim of birthplace. Whatever other vital records are being cited need to be documented to carry any legal weight.
Just because you don’t accept the verification doesn’t mean that it didn’t occur.
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health VERIFYING Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2009/09-063.pdf
As for “legal weight” there have now been 68 adjudications of lawsuits challenging Obama’s eligibility including 7 at the US Supreme Court and no challenging plaintiff has prevailed in any of them.
The short form Certification of Live Birth from the state of Hawaii clearly states: “This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.”
All the information needed to verify Article 2 Section 1 eligibility is on the short form issued by the state of Hawaii.
“Mr Rogers, it is without question that Barak Obama’s father, Barak Obama Sr was born in Kenya, a British protectorate, Obama (Barry Soetoro), admits this in his own published books.”
Correct.
“Therefore Obama/Soetoro cannot be a natural born citizen by his own admission.”
Incorrect. You apparently are using a different definition of NBC than what all the states, Congress etc are using.
And no, you don’t get to make up your own legal definition of NBC...time to get a different legal dictionary than “Uncle Chip’s”
At this point it would seem that it would be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than to find out the truth about bammie.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.