You Have the Right to Remain Silent (LT Colonel Lakin Read His Rights)

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[Man50D]

Washington, D.C., April 13, 2010. Army doctor Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin yesterday met with his brigade commander, Col. Gordon R. Roberts, who proceeded to read LTC Lakin his Miranda rights, and who informed LTC Lakin he had the “right to remain silent” because LTC Lakin is about to be charged with serious crimes. Col. Roberts was at age 19 awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, the only recipient of the nation’s highest honor currently on active duty in the Army.

LTC Lakin had previously been ordered in writing to report yesterday to Ft. Campbell, KY and then on to deploy for his second tour of duty in Afghanistan. Lakin refused to obey these orders and instead came to work yesterday morning at the Pentagon. Late yesterday afternoon he was confronted by his brigade commander.

Before the meeting was over, LTC Lakin’s Pentagon Access Pass had been revoked, and his laptop computer was set to be confiscated.

The message to LTC Lakin is clear; through official channels, he was informed yesterday that he will shortly be court-martialled for crimes (specifically, missing movement and conduct unbecoming an officer) that for others has led to lengthy imprisonment at hard labor.

Lakin has announced in a YouTube video that has now been viewed more than 110,000 times that he considers it his duty to refuse to obey orders that would be illegal if President Obama is ineligible to hold office.

Meanwhile, cries mount for proof of that eligibility, but nothing has been forthcoming. The Obama campaign at one point released a copy of computer-generated abstract of information purportedly in Hawaii's records system, but the source of this information is unclear and need not have been a birth certificate issued contemporaneously and signed by the doctor who attended the birth. Even the document released was only a copy, and the version printed in the Los Angeles Times on June 16, 2008 is on a form only in use since late 2001. Even as it is, the document contains a warning that it is merely “prima facie”--threshold, rebuttable and thus inconclusive --evidence of birth, and the copy the Times printed mysteriously has the certificate number blacked out, thereby rendering the document unusable according to language on the bottom.

Given the seriousness of the offenses with which LTC Lakin is about to be charged, the American Patriot Foundation today renewed its plea for donations to its legal defense fund for LTC Lakin. Details are available at APF's website, www.safeguardourconstitution.com

[etraveler13]

It is certainly possible Lucysmom, but the circumstantial evidence of that time says his name was changed specifically so he could attend elementary school in Indonesia. As we all know, there was no reason at that time to try and pull the wool over anyones eyes, so my bet is that it was changed. He went by Barry Soetoro at the Pinhaiou school in Hawaii as well. School pictures, etc.
I do not see any young pictures of him after the age of 5-6 as Barak Obama...but, it is possible.

[etraveler13]

However, his best friend at Occidental is named at the website, and was there when he decided to change his name.

[etraveler13]

Quote:
It was at Occidental where he stopped being called “Barry” and became Barack Obama, Newsweek pointed out in its account of Obama’s formative years that featured his black-and-white freshman photo on the cover. “It was when I made a conscious decision: I want to grow up,” he told the magazine.

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At this time he was 20-21 years old. It indicates that previously, he had always been called Barry, not Barak
His School Record lists him as Barry Soetoro. So it was at this point in his life that he changed his name. He went to Indonesia and Pakistan before he started at Columbia, and it is not a stretch (Since he never had a US Passport until becoming a Senator for Illinois), that he retained a student visa and passport from Indonesia when he travelled.

[etraveler13]

People love drama. Its another nail in his coffin.
Obamas father was not a citizen of the US, so, he cannot be a natural born citizen, hence, he does not qualify for President of the United States.
Everything else is an effort to know more about the most secretive president in US History IMO.

[bushpilot1]

No mention of Obama on their official basketball page. The baseball and football page has the word alumni, it can be clicked but the word is not on the basketball page.

[browardchad]

His School Record lists him as Barry Soetoro. So it was at this point in his life that he changed his name.

In Indonesia. When he was living with his stepfather, Lolo Soetoro. When he was six years old. Last I looked, six-year-olds aren't responsible for parents' changing their name, and there's no proof he was ever legally adopted by Lolo Soetoro.

At Occidental, he changed his name from Barry (a nickname) Obama  to Barack (a legal name) Obama. There's no proof he ever registered under the name Barry Soetoro in any U.S. school he attended, including Punahou.

It's amazing how many myths and fantasies have been produced from one single image of a 1968 Indonesian school register.

"Proof," by the way, consists of evidence -- verified, authenticated, concrete evidence that would be acceptable in a court of law, according to the court's rules for such evidence.

[Steve Van Doorn]

because they were afraid brigade commander, Col. Gordon R. Roberts would not read him his rights and back Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin?

[lucysmom]

He went by Barry Soetoro at the Pinhaiou school in Hawaii as well. School pictures, etc.

I've seen pictures of Obama from the Punahou School yearbook identifying him as Barry Obama, not Barry Soetoro. If you would provide a link from his Punahou School days identifying him as Soetoro, I would appreciate it.

As far as the name "Barry" being evidence of a name change. I just don't see that as proving anything, I grew up with a boy named Robert but never heard him called that. When he was little it was "Bobby", then sometime in jr. high it became "Bob". In fact, most kids I grew up with had nicknames. Annette was Nettie, Kenneth was Kenny - you get the idea.

[edge919]

Then perhaps was simply party to fraud in Indonesia??

[edge919]

If you scroll down to the bottom, you will see this:

"(This item was corrected July 8, 2009, to fix the name of the hospital where Obama was born. The original item incorrectly identified the facility as Queen's Hospital, an error made by the writer.)"

It's awfully nice of UPI to make the 'writer' fall on the sword. Of course, there's no byline so nobody is specifically cited to take 'credit' for the alleged error. Also, it doesn't wash very well. The reporter wrote that Obama 'described' his birth and birth hospital. IOW, the factual basis of this sentence is attributed directly to Obama. How would the 'writer' just randomly come up with the other major hospital in Hawaii for this story?? Sorry, but this error still points back at Obama. Let's quit making and accepting weak excuses for this fraud.

[edge919]

So? I don't see why the timing concerns you. It's also possible that the digital camera's internal calendar wrong. That's happened to mine, and I haven't bothered fixing it.

The source calls itself 'FACTCHECK.' How do you vouch for facts when you can't get your own right?? And the 'fact' that they scrubbed their camera data means they're trying to hide their own incompetence or complicity. IOW, these knuckleheads don't have any credibility.

Seems to match fine to me.

Good, so you can explain how the paper grew?? The image below has the original scan pasted over top of one of the factlack photos. Notice how much extra margin there is outside the security border on the factlack document, yet you can see where the edge of the paper stops on the Obama scan. These documents do not match. Paper doesn't grow.

Sorry. I don't see the relvance.

Of course. No faither can see the 'revlance.' Honesty isn't one their hallmarks.

They verified the birthplace, which is all that matters for the purposes of eligibility.

No, actually they didn't verify. They said they saw alleged documents that allegedly verify a place of birth. This would have no value in court without producing the documents.

The only reason I'm bothering to post here is because I think the birther movement is hurting conservatives.

The only way it 'hurts' anyone is when people like you go around trying to tell them the issue hurts them. Honest people recognize that Obama hasn't proved his eligibility. Ridiculing the people who point this out is simply an agenda to make excuses for a fraud.

It's not unheard of for step children to use their step father's last name, even if they weren't legally adopted. In fact, I've know people who did this.

There are legal limitations on when and how this can be done. Otherwise one is committing fraud.

[curiosity]

At this time he was 20-21 years old. It indicates that previously, he had always been called Barry, not Barak.

Yes, he stopped using his nickname at that time. So? Last time I checked, one doesn't have to legally change one's name to start or stop using a nickname.

His School Record lists him as Barry Soetoro.

A registration document from a private school in Indonesia listed him as such when he was 6 or 7 years old. That doesn't mean he ever legally changed his to Barry Seoterro. Nor does it mean he ever went by Seoterro while at Occidental.

All it means is that he Seoterro as an alias when he was a child living in Indonesia.

He went to Indonesia and Pakistan before he started at Columbia,

As many US citizens did, on US passports.

and it is not a stretch (Since he never had a US Pasport until becoming a Senator for Illinois),

How do you know he never had a US passport until then? What's your source?

[curiosity]

Good, so you can explain how the paper grew?? The image below has the original scan pasted over top of one of the factlack photos. Notice how much extra margin there is outside the security border on the factlack document, yet you can see where the edge of the paper stops on the Obama scan.

LOL. Are you serious? I can't believe you couldn't to figure this one out for yourself. But apparently you couldn't, so let me lay it out for you.

No, paper doesn't grow, but scan images can be resized. If you scan a paper that doesn't precisely fit some pre-specified dimensions, the scanner will shrink and resize the image to fit. If the proportions have to be changed, the scanner will distort the image.

Really, this isn't complicated.

There are legal limitations on when and how this can be done. Otherwise one is committing fraud.

I see. So it's possible that Obama's step father committed fraud when he as 6 or 7 years old. How exactly is this relevant to his eligbility to be president?

[edge919]

No, paper doesn't grow, but scan images can be resized. If you scan a paper that doesn't precisely fit some pre-specified dimensions, the scanner will shrink and resize the image to fit. If the proportions have to be changed, the scanner will distort the image.

Dude, just tell me you don't have a clue and spare yourself some embarrassment. This wasn't a result of being resized. Even it was resized, it doesn't explain why the edge of the paper is cut off, but not cut off at the edge of the jpg. The white strip around the document shows where the edge of the paper is at. Sorry, the obvious cause is that this not the same document factlack claimed to photograph. Whatever they photographed was most likely a print-out of the original forgery onto newly acquired certificate paper.

I see. So it's possible that Obama's step father committed fraud when he as 6 or 7 years old. How exactly is this relevant to his eligbility to be president?

Sure, it's possible Lolo committed fraud, but what would be the motive?? Obama has lots of motives for committing fraud, but as for Lolo, not so much.

[etraveler13]

Why do I care about basketball?

[etraveler13]

His School Record lists him as Barry Soetoro. So it was at this point in his life that he changed his name.

In Indonesia. When he was living with his stepfather, Lolo Soetoro. When he was six years old. Last I looked, six-year-olds aren’t responsible for parents’ changing their name, and there’s no proof he was ever legally adopted by Lolo Soetoro.

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Actually, there is. Michelle Obama had an interview with African Press International, in which she stated “There is no shame in being adopted by a stepfather.”
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78041

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The evidence would indicate young Barack Hussein Obama was adopted by Indonesian citizen Lolo Soetoro after Soetoro and Obama’s mother were married. The most convincing evidence is the Hawaii divorce papers filed in 1980 as Stanley Ann Soetoro vs. Lolo Soetoro. This document lists the couple as having two children. One is under the age of eighteen. That would be Maya Soetoro who was born in 1970. The other child is listed as over eighteen and in need of educational support. That would be Barry Soeroto (Barack Hussein Obama.) There are no other know children related to this marriage

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As for the rest of your statement, Several lawyers have studied all of these issues extensively, and it was found, contrary to anything I have read thus far, that if you look at 8 U.S.C. Section 1435(a)(2) which states “on or after September 22, 1922, a women who lost United States citizenship by marriage to an alien ineligible to citizenship…” However, Indonesia also required Stanley Ann Dunham to relinquish her U.S. Citizenship, which is an affirmative act, therefore, Stanley Ann Dunham did not simply lose her U.S. Citizenship status by marriage alone.

Badfiction claims that a parent cannot expatriate a child’s U.S. citizenship, however, this is not correct. See The Nationality Act of 1940, revised 1952, Section 318(a) “A former citizen of the United States expatriated through the expatriation of such person’s parent or parents and who has not acquired the nationality of another country by any affirmative act other than the expatriation of his parent or parents may be naturalized upon filing a petition for naturalization before reaching age of twenty-five years and upon compliance with all requirements of the naturalization laws with the following exceptions: (b) No former citizen of the United States, expatriated through the expatriation of such person’s parent or parents shall be obliged to comply with the requirements of the immigration laws, if he has not not acquired the nationality of another country by any affirmative act other than the expatriation of his parent or parents, and if he has come or shall come to the United States before reaching the age of twenty-five years. (c) After his naturalization such person shall have the same citizenship status as if he had not been expatriated.”

Renewing an Indonesian Passport after the age of 18 is an affirmative act, as you are swearing allegiance to another Country. Soetoro/Obama renewed his Indonesian Passport when he traveled to Pakistan, that is why he had to stop in Indonesia first. Remember, in 1981, Dunham was divorcing Soetoro in Hawaii and was not in Indonesia. Obama/Soetoro admits to traveling to Indonesia first and then onto Pakistan. Soetoro/Obama claims in his book “Dreams from my father” that he stopped in Indonesia to visit his mother. But again, his mother was not in Indonesia, she was in Hawaii with Maya, divorcing Lolo Soetoro. In addition, the State Department has stated in response to a FOIA request that they do not have a U.S. Passport application on file for Barack H. Obama.

Despite the above however, Indonesia required Obama/Soetoro to do a bit more upon his 18th birthday. In fact the Indonesian law gives until the age of 21. Soetoro/Obama would have had to sign an Affidavit relinquishing his Indonesian citizenship and said Affidavit had to be sent to the Indonesian Government before reclaiming any U.S. citizenship he may have once held.

When it comes to the citizenship of individuals in other countries, we are prevented from interfering, Hague Convention 1930. Speaking of Indonesia, during the late 60’s all the way up until 2006 Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship. In 2006 they changed their laws to permit dual citizenship, however, Indonesia has had its battles with enforcing their new law permitting dual citizenship.

With this said, from the research we have done, it appears that Soetoro became an Indonesian citizen. When Soetoro/Obama was approximately four (4) years old his parents divorced and thereafter, Soetoro/Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, married Lolo Soetoro, a citizen of Indonesia. Evidence points to the fact that Lolo Soetoro either signed a government form legally “acknowledging” Soetoro/Obama as his son or “adopted” Soetoro, either of which changed any citizenship status Soetoro/Obama had to a “natural” citizen of Indonesia.

At the time Barry Soetoro was in Indonesia, all Indonesian students were required to carry government identity cards or Karty Tanda Pendudaks, as well as family card identification called a Kartu Keluarga. The Kartu Keluarga is a family card which bears the legal names and citizenship status of all family members.

Soetoro/Obama was registered in a public school as an Indonesian citizen by the name of Barry Soetoro and his father was listed as Lolo Soetoro, M.A. Indonesia did not allow foreign students to attend their public schools in the late 1960’s or 1970’s, and any time a child was registered for a public school, the child’s name and citizenship status were verified through the Indonesian Government. See Constitution of Republic of Indonesia (Undang-Undang Dasar Republik Indonesia 1945), Chapter 13, Law No. 62 of 1958 (all citizens of Indonesia have a right to education). The Indonesian school record, indicates that Soetoro/Obama’s name is “Barry Soetoro;” his nationality is “Indonesia” and his father “Lolo Soetoro, M.A. There was no way for Soetoro/Obama to have attended school in Jakarta, Indonesia legally unless he was an Indonesian citizen, as Indonesia was under tight rule and was a Police State. See Constitution of Republic of Indonesia (Undang-Undang Dasar Republik Indonesia 1945), Law No. 62 of 1958. These facts indicate that Obama/Soetoro is an Indonesian citizen, and therefore he is not eligible to be President of the United States.

Under Indonesian law, when a male acknowledges a child as his son, it deems the son, in this case Soetoro/Obama, an Indonesian State citizen. See Constitution of Republic of Indonesia, Law No. 62 of 1958 concerning Immigration Affairs and Indonesian Civil Code (Kitab Undang-undang Hukum Perdata) (KUHPer) (Burgerlijk Wetboek voor Indonesie).

Furthermore, under the Indonesian adoption law, once an Indonesian citizen adopts a child, the adoption severs the child’s relationship to the birth parents, and the adopted child is given the same status as a natural child and the child takes the name of his step-father, in this case, Soetoro. See Indonesian Constitution, Article 2.

The Indonesian citizenship law was designed to prevent apatride (stateless) or bipatride (dual) citizenship. Indonesian regulations recognized neither apatride nor bipatride (stateless or dual) citizenship. Since Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship; neither did the United States (since the United States only permitted dual citizenship when ‘both’ countries agree); and since Obama/Soetoro was a “natural” citizen of Indonesia, the United States would not step in or interfere with the laws of Indonesia. Hague Convention of 1930.

As a result of Soetoro/Obama’s Indonesian “natural” citizenship status, Soetoro/Obama could never regain U.S. “natural born” status, if he in fact he ever held such, which we doubt. Soetoro/Obama could have only become “naturalized” if the proper paperwork were filed with the U.S. State Department, after going through U.S. Immigration upon his return to the United States; in which case, Soetoro/Obama would have received a Certification of Citizenship indicating “naturalized.”

We are informed, believe and thereon allege Obama/Soetoro was never naturalized in the United States after his return. Soetoro/Obama was ten (10) years old when he returned to Hawaii to live with his grandparents. Soetoro/Obama’s mother did not return with him. Therefore, it appears that she did not apply for citizenship for Soetoro/Obama in the United States. If citizenship for Soetoro/Obama had been applied for in 1971, Soetoro/Obama would have a Certification of Citizenship. If Soetoro/Obama returned in 1971 to Hawaii without going through U.S. Immigration, today he would be an “illegal alien” – and obviously not able to serve as President, but also his term as a United States Senator from Illinois for nearly four (4) years was illegal. We further believe Soetoro might have reentered the United States at age ten (10) by showing a copy of his Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth, which he received when his birth was registered in Hawaii.

In addition, we have been unable to locate any legal documents wherein Soetoro’s name was legally changed from Barry Soetoro to Barack Hussein Obama. Soetoro/Obama’s silence on these issues is deafening and his refusal to release such records to prove that none of this occurred results in his status as Acting Commander in Chief at best, and a willful action on his part to deceive the American People and the Armed Forces of the United States so that he may wield power that is in non-compliance with the United States Constitution.

[etraveler13]

I just posted a long reply please read it.

[bushpilot1]

[etraveler13]

Check the long reply I just posted.

[etraveler13]

Hi Lucysmom;
Here is a link to this issue previously discussed on FR. It covers students who knew his at Occidental.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2173340/posts