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Supreme commanders of the Polish Army killed in plane crash
ONET.PL - Polish News Website ^ | Apr.10,2010 | PAP (Polish Press Agency)

Posted on 04/10/2010 4:18:02 AM PDT by Matt_Rel

[translation from a Polish website]

 

Supreme Polish leaders, including the President of the Republic of Poland, Mr Lech Kaczynski and his legendary predecessor, the President of Poland In Exile, Mr. Ryszard Kaczorowski, as well as almost entire Staff of the Polish Armed Forces die in the crash near Smolensk, Russia.

According to official information (confirmed),  supreme commanders of the Polish Armed Forces died in the crash, adding to thousands of the military commanders that had been killed there in 1940.

Upon the Constitution of Poland, in case of President's sudden death, the Speaker of the Parliament, automatically becomes the President of Poland. Therefore, Mr. Bronislav Komorowski has officially taken duties of the President of the Republic.

 

The fallen officers of the General Staff of the Polish Armed Forces:

1. Gen. Gagor /read: gon'gor/ , The Supreme Commander of the Polish Armed Forces

R.I.P. April 10,2010

 

2. Gen. Bronislaw KWIATKOWSKI - The Operational Commander of the Polish Armed Forces

R.I.P. April 10,2010



3. Gen. Andrzej BLASIK /buasheek/- The Commander of the Polish Air Force

File:Andrzej.Błasik.PNG

R.I.P. April 10,2010


4. Gen. Tadeusz BUK - The Commander of the Polish Ground Forces

Gen. Tadeusz Buk / fot. A. Nocoń     

[here in a field uniform in Afghanistan]  

R.I.P. April 10,2010

 

5. Gen. dyw. Włodzimierz POTASIŃSKI The Commander of the Polish Special Forces  (e.g. supreme commander of GROM)


 

R.I.P. April 10,2010


6. Admiral Andrzej KARWETA - The Commander of the Polish Navy


File:Wiceadmirał Andrzej Karweta - Konferencja prasowa Marynarka Wojenna 2008.jpg

R.I.P. April 10,2010

 


7. Gen. Kazimierz GILARSKI 
- The Commander of the Capital of Warsaw ArmyWidok Obrazu

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General Staff pay their tribute to late Pope John Paul II

MAY THE ETERNAL LIGHT OF CHRIST BE NOW WITH YOU ALL

 

 

 


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: army; grom; poland; polish
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Why would a pilot risk the lives of almost all high-level cabinet members, top military commanders members as well as the President so carelessly?

Perhaps the pilot acted on behalf of KGB Putin and company, either directly or on his own.

61 posted on 04/10/2010 6:01:37 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Free Vulcan

I just hope he is ready. Hard times are coming for my nation and we need a good leader.


62 posted on 04/10/2010 6:02:48 AM PDT by Verdelet (Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori!)
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To: Lurking in Kansas
I don't want to get out my tin-foil head*, but ...

*hat

63 posted on 04/10/2010 6:02:52 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Malesherbes

And were sacrificed in Holland in Operation Market Garden


64 posted on 04/10/2010 6:04:25 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ostracize Democray intention was to join up wts. There can be no Democrat friends.)
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To: Matt_Rel

I bet there is an Islamic connection here no matter how faint or vague, could be so minute as a lone worker placing a GPS scrambler in a hidden part of the aircraft.

I tell you what is scary, it could happen here in the US.

A plane full of the heads of our military, enemies of Obama.


65 posted on 04/10/2010 6:05:39 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: ETL

GWB is making plans now to attend services with Laura while “the one” is wondering who he can send..


66 posted on 04/10/2010 6:06:46 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is...Tell the storm how big your God is!)
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To: Matt_Rel

This is just stunning - the place, the time, the category of people ...


67 posted on 04/10/2010 6:07:41 AM PDT by lizol
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To: Matt_Rel
So sad. My prayers to the people of Poland. They have been a good friend to us.

Pardon my ignorance but why is there a Polish president in exile?

68 posted on 04/10/2010 6:09:53 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Matt_Rel

Prayers for the Polish people, true allies of the U.S.

Our Lady of Chestahova, pray for them.

RIP


69 posted on 04/10/2010 6:10:08 AM PDT by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: Matt_Rel

1940-2010
60 years?


70 posted on 04/10/2010 6:12:33 AM PDT by MissP-38
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To: MissP-38

Forgive my typoes.I’m too stunned...


71 posted on 04/10/2010 6:14:08 AM PDT by Matt_Rel
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To: Matt_Rel

They had their president AND their whole Joint Chiefs of Staff on the same plane???

I checked the Embassy website and they have just posted it, there isn’t even a condolence book yet. I’ll try to zip up there Monday at lunch with some flowers.

Prayers for the brave Poles - they lit a beacon of freedom in a very dark place.


72 posted on 04/10/2010 6:14:26 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: DollyCali

I don’t think the public housing resident is up yet...


73 posted on 04/10/2010 6:16:00 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: tsmith130

To cut long story short. After WWII Soviet Union set puppet commie government in Poland. The real government of Polish nation throughout WWII and later was set in London. It was called the government in exile. When Poland gained independence in 1989 the government of free Polish republic was installed in Poland and the last President in exile gave his presidential insignia to Lech Walesa.


74 posted on 04/10/2010 6:16:36 AM PDT by Verdelet (Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori!)
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To: WellyP
The Polish people will move West if there is even a hint of foul play or some nation trying to take advantage of the situation.

West to WHO? Certainly not us.

75 posted on 04/10/2010 6:18:24 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: tsmith130
Polish government in exile
76 posted on 04/10/2010 6:19:25 AM PDT by Verdelet (Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori!)
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To: ETL
What if the Russian Tower gave them false altimeter setting info?

In the fog you might think you were approaching the airfield at a greater altitude than you actually were ... then .........

The reporting of altimeter setting information by an airport traffic control tower and/or by ATC Regional Centers is a routine requirement for safe en route (altitude separation) and terminal area (approach) navigation and has been a standard procedure for many years. Presently, each control tower has one or more precision aneroid or bourdon tube type barometric pressure sensing altimeter setting indicators (ASI) having accuracies on the order of ± 0.020 to ± .040 inches of mercury. Each sensor has to be calibrated periodically in accordance with its own calibration characteristic and this calibration "number" must be "greasepencilled" periodically on the face of the instrument and taken into account in the computation of the reported altimeter setting number. This task is difficult, time consuming and subject to human error. The altimeter setting indicator reading from such instruments is not readily converted into digital format for transmission throughout an airport for remote indication. It is often the situation that different calibration numbers must be added or subtracted from the instrument reading with respect to the various instruments at the airport, often resulting in discrepancies between altimeter settings communicated to aircraft from different sources at the same airport.

Schiphol airliner crash blamed on altimeter failure, pilot error

Investigators in The Netherlands have announced that last month's crash of a Boeing 737-800 was caused by a combination of an instrument failure and pilot error. Turkish Airlines Flight 1951 crashed upon approach to Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport, killing nine and injuring eighty of the 135 passengers and crew on board.

Pieter van Vollenhoven, head of the Dutch Safety Board, said yesterday that as the aircraft was at 1,950 feet the faulty altimeter indicated that the airliner's height was at minus eight feet. Because the autopilot and autothrottle were running from this flawed data the plane automatically reduced engine power as it would in the final seconds before landing.

The sensitive altimeter

The sensitive altimeter is the cockpit instrument that indicates the aircraft's altitude. The instrument is a refined aneroid barometer with a dial indicating height above a pre-set level rather than atmospheric pressure. The main component of such an instrument is a small, flexible, corrugated metal capsule from which the air has been partially evacuated — fitted with a metal closure or diaphragm. There is a spring within the capsule that applies a constant force to the bottom of the diaphragm, while atmospheric static pressure applies a counter force to the top, so that the diaphragm moves as atmospheric pressure changes. The movement of the pressure-sensing capsule is transferred and magnified — via a mechanical linkage or piezo-quartz component — to a dial pointer or pointers, or a digital display, which indicate the altitude reading. The static pressure is drawn from the aircraft's static vent, which may induce slight position errors due to aerodynamic effects around the vent.

The level in the atmosphere at which any particular pressure occurs is also dependent on temperature — as we saw in the 'Airspeed and the properties of air' module — but the altimeter does not sense the air temperature. Consequently, all altimeters are calibrated in accordance with the International Standard Atmosphere [ISA] model, which utilises a standard temperature lapse rate with height of 6.5 °C per km. The atmosphere in any region rarely corresponds to the ISA, so aneroid altimeters do not indicate totally accurate height. This is not that important, as true altitude can be calculated, in the rare circumstance that it is needed for terrain clearance purposes. There is no problem with air traffic management, in that all aircraft in the same region, with properly set (and functioning) altimeters, will be out by the same amount.

It is, of course, desirable to set the current local surface pressure into the altimeter by setting that reference pressure into a pressure-setting scale (known since the 1930s as the 'Kollsman Window'), which in turn resets the position of the height-indicating pointers against the dial. Or, if the aircraft is on the ground, the same result is achieved by turning the pressure-setting scale until the altimeter indicates the known airfield elevation. The altimeter in the image indicates an altitude of 1400 feet with the baro-scale set at 29.9 inches of mercury [in/Hg] — equivalent to 1013 hPa. If the altitude was 11 400 feet, the pointer with the inverted triangle on the end would be past the figure 1 on the image, indicating +10 000 feet.

In Australia, all barometric pressures are reported in hectopascals [equivalent to millibars]; and in the USA in units of inches of mercury [in/Hg =33.86 hPa]. The sub-scale setting range provided in modern altimeters is from 850 to 1050 hPa.

Altitude encoding

In some flight conditions, an aircraft must operate a transponder for traffic separation purposes. The transponder obtains altitude data from a special altitude encoding altimeter or from a blind encoder; the latter being an electronic device that obtains current atmospheric pressure from the static pressure line and the reference pressure used is preset at 1013.2 hPa. That same reference pressure is used for the altitude encoding function of the altimeter, thus the transponder broadcasts pressure altitude only.

77 posted on 04/10/2010 6:22:48 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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This is a win for Zero.

These leaders were allies of Bush - contributed special forces troops to OIF in 2003 and backed Bush’s missile defense plans in Poland and Czech Republic.

No doubt, they were against gays openly serving in the military as well.

This is what Zero wants to happen to Netanyahu.


78 posted on 04/10/2010 6:23:06 AM PDT by Competition clutch
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To: Elle Bee
What if the Russian Tower gave them false altimeter setting info?

Could very well be. This was too good an opportunity for the Russians to miss. I suspect the invite to Russia was a setup.

79 posted on 04/10/2010 6:28:08 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Elle Bee

Thanks for the info and links. I’ll take a look at it.


80 posted on 04/10/2010 6:29:04 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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