Posted on 04/09/2010 3:05:56 PM PDT by SmartInsight
A 7-year-old Russian boy adopted by an American family last year was put on a return flight to Moscow this week because of violent and psychotic behavior, according to a Tennessee grandmother.
Once the child learned enough English, he told his new family about the horrors of his previous life, including being beaten at the orphanage after his mother abandoned him, she said.
He also told of an incident in which he burned down a building near the orphanage, she said.
Hansen said the child had a "hit list" of people he was targeting, including her daughter, who he said he "wanted to kill for the house." He threatened to kill her grandson for a videogame, she said.
The final incident that convinced Hansen she should send the boy back to Russia was when she caught him starting a fire with papers in his bedroom last Monday, she said. She feared the child might burn down the house and kill her family, she said.
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Sounds like the 13 y/o kid down the street from us who moved in about 4 months ago. I was outside playing basketball with a bunch of little kids when I see this kid acting like he is throwing something at the other kids. He has a folding knife, blade out, making threats. I tell him to leave; he gives me attitude so I go chat with his mommy. She tells me he hasn’t taken his anger management meds this evening. Find out later he needs those meds 3x/day.
My question: as a parent, what the @#$% are you thinking allowing a kid that requires meds 3/day to have access to a knife. (mommy said he wasn’t allowed to take it outside!)
Should be an interesting summer. Hope the street doesn’t lose a kid to this punk.
Did the child actually set fire to a building or did he say he set fire to a building? My understanding of the article (which is possibly off) was the child said he set fire to the building.
I’m not saying these people are lying - BUT I think there is something off about their story, altogether. It’s not out of the realm the orphanage failed to disclose information, but that in no way excuses their behavior.
Again, I didn’t read anywhere where they sought psychiatric help for the child after he “confessed” to burning a building and formed a hit list.
Also, there was a process to “undo” the adoption, and they blatantly ignored that process and risked the child’s life. Yes, they hired a driver - ONLINE - but they completely disregarded the process, which tells me they had no interest in doing things the proper way.
If their “natural” child was doing these things, and endangering their adoptive child (a distinction I think is terrible to make), would they have sent him back to the hospital from which he came?
Sending this child packing and out of their lives was the smartest thing they could do.
AMEN!
From the article”
“Once the child learned enough English, he told his new family about the horrors of his previous life, including being beaten at the orphanage after his mother abandoned him, she said.
He also told of an incident in which he burned down a building near the orphanage, she said.
Hansen said the child had a “hit list” of people he was targeting, including her daughter, who he said he “wanted to kill for the house.” He threatened to kill her grandson for a videogame, she said.
The final incident that convinced Hansen she should send the boy back to Russia was when she caught him starting a fire with papers in his bedroom last Monday, she said. She feared the child might burn down the house and kill her family, she said.”
I tell him to leave; he gives me attitude so I go chat with his mommy. She tells me he hasn’t taken his anger management meds this evening. Find out later he needs those meds 3x/day.
Kids like this used to be remanded to state children’s homes and state hospitals. that is one of the reasons it used to be safer in the forties fifies and sixties.
“BUT you don’t just give up on a child in that manner.”
Yes she can and she did. She owes nothing to anybody. If nothing else, they owe her for the scam and the money she spent on this nut case.
“If it was necessary, they asked if we could use one of our foster families here in Tennessee to help take care of the little boy.”
Let russia take care of their own.
And I have great disdain for that as well. Having several adopted cousins, and adopted siblings, all of whom were “high risk” because of their age, their circumstance, etc.; I have seen first hand the effects the procreators have had and it makes me sick to think of how someone can just throw their child away just because he or she isn’t 100% perfect.
Again - I realize not everyone views the world the same as me, and that’s fine, but in my opinion, it’s inexcusable the way this family behaved. If they wanted to dissolve the adoption, then there was a proper process, which they chose to ignore because it wasn’t convenient for them.
I know...I was making the point that the article didn’t say if there was any factual verification that the child burnt the building down, or that any of what he said was true. :)
I agree with you, I was copying a quote.
You are a very compassionate person — but there is a big difference between people adopting children, KNOWING that they have mental or physical problems, vs not being told of any problems and having the adopted kid turn out to be literlly a danger.
This kid, at age 7 was trying to burn down their house and was very hostile and none of his problems were told to the prospective adopting Mother.
But it wasn’t just what the kid said he did, he actually DID hostile, threatening things while he was here, with his adoptive Mother, so that makes it quite believable.
How about getting him into a mental institution instead of sending him back to Russia by himself?
Not only that, “mainstreaming” is the goal. I drove a school bus, one of the middle schoolers I had, I had known through playing ball with my sons. I always thought he was kind of whiney and immature, but he was an only child, no biggie. Then he was assigned to my bus, I was told he had to sit directly behind me because of behavior issues, again, I assumed his immaturity. Turns out ole Jimmy, had lots of mental issues, anger management being one of them. He had broke a teachers arm at Pre-school by picking up a chair in a rage and slamming the teacher with it. He had been in and out of public school since. Just bounced around and meds adjusted, then back in school until he attached someone else, just round and round He would be 19 now, I don’t know what happened to him.
“it makes me sick to think of how someone can just throw their child away just because he or she isn’t 100% perfect.”
READ THE ARTICLE!!!...This kid was a total, dangerous nut case. He had the whole family in fear for their lives. It was a no win situation. Comprende?
Everything else aside, (including my emotional feelings on this topic) - I still disagree that the mother did the right thing.
I’m sorry, but I just find no excuse for disregarding the procedure to dissolve the adoption if that is what she thought was the necessary step.
I understand wanting to protect your family, and even if the child isn’t a match for your situation; but to disregard the procedure to dissolve the adoption is no different than kidnapping a child you think you can provide for in a better manner.
AFAIK there is no policy on dissolving an adoption. We had friends who ended up with an older child who did stab his adopted Mom, the state told them too bad he’s your’s now. You have less rights as an adoptive parent than you do with a natural child. With a natural child you can turn custody over to the state they don’t allow that with an adopted child and is probably why they chose to do this the way they did.
Funny, that's exactly what the mother said.
These adoptions are not cheap, most are around $10,000, our out of pocket expenses (That we never saw a dime of was almost $11,000)
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