Did Hawaii have any records on Obama before 2006?

post & email ^ | April 8, 2010 | Sharon Rondeau

[Red Steel]

THE POST & EMAIL THINKS NOT

The Hawaii Department of Health continues to ignore and stonewall legitimate requests for information which under its UIPA law should be made available to a requester within ten days.

Mr. John Charlton, our Editor-in-Chief, has made three requests for such information from the Health Department beginning in early March which the Health Department either says it does not understand or to which it has failed to respond at all.

On February 26, 2010, Mr. Charlton published an article demonstrating the Health Department’s increasing reluctance to comply with UIPA requests. He had asked for copies of handwritten pages from the “Birth Index” maintained before Hawaii’s birth records were computerized and had offered to pay for the cost of obtaining them. Specifically, he was looking for anyone with the surnames Payne, Dunham, Soetoro and Obama.

Instead, the Health Department sent a PDF file of births with the parents’ names redacted. None of the names for which Mr. Charlton had asked appeared on the list, although Mr. Charlton had obtained information independently that at least one person with one of the last names had been born during the period in question.

Since that time, Mr. Charlton has made three more requests to the Hawaii Department of Health, none of which has been addressed. The PDF which Janice Okubo, the Health Department’s Public Information Officer, released to Mr. Charlton did not contain the information he had requested.

On March 4, 2010, Mr. Charlton sent the Hawaii Health Department the following email:

[Red Steel]

Ping.

[Red Steel]

Info ping.

[Maverick68]

If/when it is found and proven that obama is not an American citizen and is therefor ineligible to be President, Healthcare becomes null and void...

[Touch Not the Cat]

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That and lot else — would be nice.

But they will probably trot out Slow Joe Biden and he'll sit and resign everything the usurper previously approved.

[stuartcr]

Proof positive something is being hidden.

[Voter62vb]

“Instead, the Health Department sent a PDF file of births with the parents’ names redacted”

[LucyT]

Did Hawaii have any records on Obama before 2006?
post & email ^ | April 8, 2010 | Sharon Rondeau

THE POST & EMAIL THINKS NOT

Specifically, he was looking for anyone with the surnames Payne, Dunham, Soetoro and Obama.

Instead, the Health Department sent a PDF file of births with the parents’ names redacted. None of the names for which Mr. Charlton had asked appeared on the list, although Mr. Charlton had obtained information independently that at least one person with one of the last names had been born during the period in question.

Check out the (frustrating) correspondence shown at the link.

[samson1097]

If/when it is found and proven that obama is not an American citizen and is therefor ineligible to be President, Healthcare becomes null and void...

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I disagree with you. If it were found that he was ineligible, even if everyone agreed to undo what he was unqualified to do, the heathcare disaster should still be law.

The President may sign a bill into law, veto it, or refuse to act on the bill. If the President does not act on the bill, after 10 days it becomes law. If Obama signing the bill were undone, wouldn’t it be as if the President did not act on the bill at all? Executive could/should be undone, but I don’t think this should.

[SnakeDoctor]

>> The President may sign a bill into law, veto it, or refuse to act on the bill. If the President does not act on the bill, after 10 days it becomes law. If Obama signing the bill were undone, wouldn’t it be as if the President did not act on the bill at all? Executive could/should be undone, but I don’t think this should.

You are mistaken. A bill cannot become law without signature. If a President does not act, it is a “pocket veto”.

SnakeDoc

[Pearls Before Swine]

This is very interesting. I think a possible explanation (which doesn't help in getting at the truth) is that pressure has been applied from above, or implied from above, so there's no UIPA co-operation to be had from anyone in that department.

You don't have to be too smart to know that your civil service job will be history if you tread on Obama's toes. And there's probably enough goons around to make you worry about more than your job.

[Las Vegas Ron]

Seems to me it would be like a fraudulent preacher marrying a man and a woman.

After the fraud was discovered, the marriage would become null and void.

Just my $.02

[bgill]

Note that by “Birth Index”, I mean that index which regards grants of Certificates of Live Birth, not Certificates of Hawaiian Birth.

Say what? I said a long time ago they needed to investigate the hand written original birth indexes. Why is he wanting the COLBs? Unless it's backdooring it but he'd still need to index to the actual vault copies.

[RWGinger]

I believe there is something 0dumbo doesn’t want seen
but what Bc did he use to get his drivers license SS card etc

I think he had been using the one he made up ( or his grandparents ) made up , perhaps even after he came back from Indonesia.

he would have needed some form of a BC prior to his run so I don’t think Hi made up one in 2006. I think one was fabricated long ago.

[Tucker822]

For later read.

[roses of sharon]

Are there any pics of him as an infant in Hawaii? All I have seen are adolescent pics that his campaign released.

I have not followed this very closely, thanks!

[Maverick68]

But THIS bill is considered law because the President signed it NOT because of his inaction.
I should be null and void as with EVERY piece of legislation he has signed.

[Cincinnatus]

A pocket veto can only happen if Congress has adjourned. Otherwise, the bill becomes law with or without the president’s signature.

[bgill]

Note that by “Birth Index”, I mean that index which regards grants of Certificates of Live Birth, not Certificates of Hawaiian Birth.

Say what? I said a long time ago they needed to investigate the hand written original birth indexes. Why is he wanting the COLBs? Unless it's backdooring it but he'd still need to index to the actual vault copies. Also, why is everyone dealing with the health department? Go to the county clerk's office. It's all on file there and lots easier to get into.